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Blackhawk Farms Onboard Videos 7/2-7/3, 2011

I've managed to upload a few videos from the July 2/3 weekend. I will be adding more to this original post as they become available on YouTube. I have 4 sessions from Saturday, and 8 sessions from Sunday, so please be patient. The only Advanced group I have is at the bottom. I kept forgeting to stop and turn the camera on.

Best Lap: 1:17.16 in the Intermediate Group (1:17.17 in the A-Group)

Please understand that these were while riding as a CR, trying to look backwards, trying to manage traffic flow, and trying not to run off the track while doing it. Sometimes I was chasing down violators to have a quick talk. Good times no matter what was going on.


Disclaimer: The Saturday videos uploaded in a 4:3 when the original videos are 19:9 widescreen, so things look taller/skinnier. : I'm using a different video program for the Sunday videos, so they should be the original widescreen version.

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Short List - Embedded videos are down below.
Saturday - Beginner Group

NESBA B-Group, Session-4, 7/2/11

NESBA B-Group, Session-5, 7/2/11

NESBA B-Group, Session-6, 7/2/11

NESBA B-Group, Session-7, 7/2/11


Sunday - Intermediate Group

NESBA I-Group, Session-1, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-2A, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-2B, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-3A, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-3B, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-4A, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-4B, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-5, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-6, 7/3/11

NESBA I-Group, Session-7, 7/3/11


Sunday - Advanced Group (I only filmed one )

NESBA A-Group, Session-2, 7/3/11



Long List List
Saturday - Beginner Group

NESBA B-Group, Session-4, 7/2/11


NESBA B-Group, Session-5, 7/2/11


NESBA B-Group, Session-6, 7/2/11


NESBA B-Group, Session-7, 7/2/11



Sunday - Intermediate Group

NESBA I-Group, Session-1, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-2A, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-2B, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-3A, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-3B, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-4A, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-4B, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-5, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-6, 7/3/11


NESBA I-Group, Session-7, 7/3/11



Sunday - Advanced Group (I only filmed one )
*** I did manage a 1:17.40 in my my FIRST, FULL, A-session on this new-to-me bike.

NESBA A-Group, Session-2, 7/3/11




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How do you decide who to follow, who to pass etc?

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How do you decide who to follow, who to pass etc?
I go out with whatever group of bikes I happen to get in the staging lanes. I run a warmup pace lap for their tires/mind, then I will pick up the pace a bit, and look back to see how they're doing.

If they're looking good, then I'll either pick up the pace a bit more, or I will wave them by so that I can watch their lines, body position, smoothness, etc. If they're doing well, then I may just let them go and pick up whoever is behind them. Same drill for them. Wave by, and observe.

Passing is done for different reasons:
1. A slower rider that's smooth, but is working on their skills. I'll pass to let them have their track time, or I might show them some lines and see how they're doing.

2. A rider with poor lines and/or "on the edge": I will pass and help bring the pace down a little, then show them lines, and smoothness.

3. The fast rider, close to the bump: I will follow them to observe, then I'll pass them for a few pointers, then wave them back by to observe again. This may happen several times within one lap. If we've talked in advance, then I may pass in places where they are leaving me room to pass just to re-enforce the use of the track.

4. Sometimes I will see someone make an illegal pass/move, and then I'm passing others (within the group rules) in order to catch that individual.

There's so much going on out there that sometimes you just wing it, and help whoever you can while trying not to hold anyone up. Other times you're tired, and just wave people by for a lap to take a break.

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Other times you're tired, and just wave people by for a lap to take a break.


Thanks!

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Some updates made to the video list...

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best part of that "i" vid is 14:37, god my bike sounds so good. hey jim, that was my
friend eric you were towing around there the last 1/3 of the i vid. just wanted to say thanks and good job showin him around his first time there. later in the day he seemed
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Very cool vids.

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u say "whoa wtf" at 8:24 jim. that was definitely against the rules huh> haha
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I may need to put ANOTHER piece of electrical tape over the mic.

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I may need to put ANOTHER piece of electrical tape over the mic.
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That 2b I group looked like a circus.
some slow riding early sunday but it made for some sweet passing. doesn't look like i got much vid time. oh well...that's why i just picked up a GoPro myself.

edit: oh goodie...more vids. sorry no patience

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Session-4B is taking forever to convert. It's 370MB and 18min long.

Oh, and I have a new windscreen coming, so the scratched up POS is going away.

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there it was, i was waiting to see if you had some of the aftermath.
3a session, sux man! wrong place wrong time is becoming a bad and
unfortunate event as of late. damn, still have the flashbacks

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yeah, i'm back watchin, trying to piece things together. i'm glad u put up
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Great vids. Thanks for putting them up.
Other than passing on pit out, my only appearance is me in my truck at the end of vid 7 with my busted ass bike

Picture and video are such a great learning tool, it has to be one of the best things to come along for the sport.

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thanks for posting more vids but again i wasn't in any. guess that's why i decided to go and get my own.

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One more from the third.

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Joyride: Nice riding, and nice quality videos.

Just a few pointers that might help you out.

T-1: Work on getting closer to the apex rumble strips. In a lot of your laps, your tires seem to be going right over the ripples from the cars. As your pace picks up, this line can/will cause you to lose the front end at "your" apex.

Bus Stop: Coming out of the carousel, make sure you hit the apex here, because it is going to dictate your exit line, which affects your drive into T-4.

T-4: You're turning in a bit early. Try to wait until near the end of the candy stripes on the right hand side, then turn in to your apex. Better drive between T-4 and T-5.

T-5: Use the WHOLE track that you paid for. I can understand a foot or so of buffer room, but you're exiting T-5 mid track, unless you're passing someone. Allows you a smoother, and harder drive to T-6.

From what I saw, you're moving along at a good clip, and appear to be fairly relaxed doing it. I know I followed you some, and gave you a thumbs up on the straight during one of your vids. You times are pretty consistent 1:21-1:22 which is very respectable. Just smooth out a few lines, and tweak you exits, and you'll start seeing a faster pace.

I also observed some good traffic management decisions during all of your videos. Somewhat agressive to execute the passes, but then considerate/smart enough to know when it might not work well, and you regroup for another try. Nicely Done

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Thank you for the critique. I hear what you are saying about turn 1, I seemed to hit it wrong all day. Thankfully, I only drifted into the rumbles once. I just started using the camera during the Road America event. It has been a great tool. I was able to look at my lines and clean them up for the motovid event the following Wednesday. I knocked my time down to a pretty consistent 1:20 just barely missing a 1:19. I worked with Jeremy as he was pitted near me and I started using some trail braking. I think with practice I should be able to keep a little more momentum coming out of 1 and 7, that coupled with some improvement in 4 should get me in the teens. I know lap times aren't supposed to be important but I think they are an effective meter to gauge whether the changes I have made are working. Thanks again and hopefully I can work with you on the next track day.
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