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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 08-25-2004, 02:07 AM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 31 (permalink) Old 08-25-2004, 02:07 AM Thread Starter
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Some pix




3 of us on straight

3 of us on turn






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Wow, looks like a beautiful track. Nice pix!

Looks like you guys had a great time.
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Isn't that an awesome track? T2 is so much fun. I'm glad you guys had fun out there.

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At least I know where those ants are now, I never saw them when I was down there.
No kidding, when you are on the track you don't see them unless you look off to the inside.

And yes, Chris is right, turn 2 a that track is great. Downhill right handed carosel..

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Cool pics! Looks like you guys had fun.

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11 hours driving through the rain to BARBER is well worth it.

The track is so awesome, paddock is large, track surface is super sticky, track layout is so fun.

-- Weather --
Saturday: The weather is cloudy with a 1 session of small shower.
Sunday: Hot weather all day ( but it rained on Saturday night so all grasses are wet).

In my opinion, It is a better track than Road America.

David ran 1.45.xx on Saturday and end the day with ALMOST highside.

Ernie ran some good laps but the timer didn't turn on, I would guess that would be 1.50.xx

Me I keep following david all Sunday and there is one clean lap that I ran my personal best 1.45.90

I would recommend anyone to go to BARBER, well worth money and time

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Looks like there's a shitload of Armco there. Is that just the angle or does it lack run off room?

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Looks like there's a shitload of Armco there. Is that just the angle or does it lack run off room?
There is plenty of runoff with the exception of the last couple corners. You aren't going super fast in that section but it can get hairy around the pit entrance off of the third to last corner.

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Looks like there's a shitload of Armco there. Is that just the angle or does it lack run off room?
There were a few crashes on both day, None of them hit tire wall.

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Yep definitely worth the 12 hour drive to get down there.

Fri morning we started out with overcast skies. A quick look at the weather radar showed that we were going to drive through wet stuff when we hit Indiana. What I didn't do was pull back even farther to see that the rain covered the entire freakin midwest region clear down to the coast. It rained on us in all 5 states heading down to Birmingham (IL, IN, KY, TN, AL)

Hindsight says rent an enclosed trailer next time instead of hauling two bikes in the back of the truck...or at least tape up the air ducts so sheets of rain don't pour in there.

The track itself is gorgeous. Gotta love the elevation changes and all the blind turns. Well actually, I think we were all crapping bricks for the first few sessions as we got used to the track. Nothing like cresting a hill and forgeting which way you're supposed to be turning. Thank goodness the track folks laid out orange cones to help sight turning points... Even then some of the cones weren't visible until the last instant before you had to turn because of tall grass.

The track is not only smooth and grippy but must be rougher than Putnam. Either that or my suspension is going crappy because my rear tire is completely shagged on both the left and right sides after this weekend.

Birmingham's Hooters has nothing on our Chicagoland Hooters. The women here are MUCH cuter .

As far as other amenities, it is kinda convenient to have a Sam's Club and a 24 hour Walmart so close to the track. Another hindsight item to note: don't bother lugging drinks and food down there in cooler...can buy those there. RA, Blackhawk, Putnam, Gingerman don't have that luxury.

Weather cooperated while we were down there. ~80s. Too bad about the humidity though. UGH - 90-95% humidity really made wearing the leathers fun...NOT (big chore ahead washing that stinky thing now )

and then it supposedly is raining down there for the rest of the week so we made it through our track days and back home in a nice bubble of good weather.

Overall it was a great time. I'm kicking myself now for being too busy with work earlier in the year to make it down to the Mar or May NESBA events. I'm definitely going more times next year.

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Ernie ran some good laps but the timer didn't turn on, I would guess that would be 1.50.xx
Timer was flaky on Sat once we figured out what direction the beacon was on the track (right side, not left like we thought). I was doing 1:55s in the afternoon. Later on when I wasn't picking up laps and you two were being lazy and making me lead the first few laps, David said I was doing 1:51s.

My timer did skip some laps. I was looking at it later and it said I did a 3:33 lap. If that's split in half then I did a 1:46 on Sunday...which was close to your 1:45s

Nismoo is getting crazy fast really quick. Everybody get outta his way. He'll probably be in "A" soon with the other speed freaks

..and of course we already knew that mikdivad was faster than us. He was running consistent 1:44s and 1:45s while we were just lucky to graze that boundary. The Control riders were kidding each other about being tired and only running 1:33s
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Nismoo is getting crazy fast really quick. Everybody get outta his way. He'll probably be in "A" soon with the other speed freaks

Nobody get outta my way, it was hard to hold on liter bike on exit and straight. I am also not consistency enough to run in "A". 1.45 was a luck there.

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Birmingham's Hooters has nothing on our Chicagoland Hooters. The woman here are MUCH cuter .
I think some people's opinion on this subject differ from yours.

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Well I guess I should post up. Barber is a great track, but I must admit I was extremely intimidated during the Saturday morning sessions. There is nothing even remotely close to the craziness of that track here in the midwest. There were a few times where I was yelling "WHOA!" underneath my helmet as I lapped around the track for the first time. As Ernie stated the facilities are world-class and the scenic backdrop around Barber makes me feel like I'm more at a 5-star golf course than a renowned racetrack. Another bonus was that the NESBA event was relatively empty so there was plenty of space and the track wasn't as crowded as I heard it could have been.

However I do feel a little disappointed in myself after getting back from Barber. I ran in the Intermediate group b/c I wanted to get familiar with the track without always feeling like someone was breathing down my neck, and I wanted to ride together with the people I was there with. Now there were plenty of guys faster than me in the I group, but more often than not I ran into traffic. I should have ridden in A on Sunday but after my near highside during the last session on Saturday I decided it was better staying in I so I wouldn't get tempted to ride over my head. I know there were several places on the track where I would have liked to brake deeper and exit harder, but I consciously chose to slow my pace so that my wife and baby wouldn't have to take an unneccesary plane ride down to Alabama. However deep inside my competitive nature can't stand the fact that I didn't push myself and the bike to their limits. After dwelling on it for the past couple of days, I've resigned myself to the fact that my decision was the responsible and prudent course of action at this point in my life. Better to come home slowly than not come home at all. And anyways a 1:45.05 isn't THAT slow at Barber, is it???

As for the rest of the weekend it was a great bang to end my summer before going back to work. I could do without the 12 hour one way ride, but as always I enjoyed the company of Ernie and his corny humor. Pol began showing me a wheel on Sunday which lit a fire under me, but props to him for keeping up with a liter bike.

And just to end with some advice if you plan on going to Barber:

1. Bring a new set of tires. Barber chews tires up and spits them out like a bad habit.
2. We don't realize how good we have it with Jack and SLIDERPHOTO here in the midwest. The photographer down there is a mere amateur compared to the quality and price Jack offers here. Don't even bother looking at the photos they take. Most of them are blurry and poor.
3. Do some research about restaurants before you go down to AL. We asked for suggestions from the locals and let's just say our palettes didn't agree with theirs.
4. Make sure you leave yourself a time cushion before and after the track weekend. The drive saps all your energy and you don't want to show up or leave the track exhausted.
5. And finally, work on your southern accent so you can actually understand and have a conversation with the locals about MAC-donalds... ask Ernie about this one.

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Wow, looks like a beautiful track. Nice pix!

Looks like you guys had a great time.
yeah it is an awesome track. everybody should save up their pennies and go next year
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Im so jealous...I need to go back next year...with my track bike
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I consciously chose to slow my pace so that my wife and baby wouldn't have to take an unneccesary plane ride down to Alabama.

You made the right decision. I would do the same if I were in your position.

Luckily, I am not a father yet.

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Those were great pictures. That sure looks nice out there.
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Pol was able to catch my near high side on video. It was coming out of turn 10 chasing down another red R1. Here's the short clip of the incident:

http://home.comcast.net/~nismoo/DavidAlmostHighSide.wmv
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Whoa... who knew the R1 had the power to spin the rear up like that?

Nice save David. Good catch on the vid too!

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wow, huge pucker factor there, nice save...

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looks great! what organization were you down there with? I have a story about Barber as well.. will post soon.
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My good friend Tom crashed there really bad at the CS race there, a couple weeks ago. Totally wrecked his RS125 and broke his collar bone. CCS am#78

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