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Roll Call: NESBA Putnam 9/9-10/06

Hey folks, big cookout on Saturday night at Cloverdale RV park. Post up who is going to Putnam. This is one of my favorite tracks in the midwest. Flowing and fast track with tons of run off almost everywhere (only one corner has an issue), and certainly TONS of traction.

If you haven't been there, many folks like this one better than Blackhawk. It is well worth the trip.

If you are coming, plan on bringing some drink and food for the cookout Saturday night.

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Awwww crap. I just may have to spend the money and go after all. I just sold my F4 wheels and race glass this evening so I may have found the money. Heck I just hit my 12 track day yesterday, so now I have elite status! Just 3 more days till free tires.

I also love Putnam. It was my first track day. I fell in love with it only after going to other tracks and realizing how much it had to offer technically.

It has great variety of corners with some elevation change, and a nice long straight for you top speed junkies. I just get a little nervous everytime I come around that last turn and see the wall.

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a nice long straight for you top speed junkies. I just get a little nervous everytime I come around that last turn and see the wall.
I wonder if I can bribe the track marshal to put out the cones for the front straight chicane..hmmmmm checks pockets and ... oh well maybe next year.


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I like that they have them covered with blue tarps... I think they should paint nice puffy, fluffy clouds on them so they at least look soft.

Plus after coming out of dead bear I am lost in that last section. I want to grab a fast guy and do a short track walk through there so I can find my way.

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Plus after coming out of dead bear I am lost in that last section. I want to grab a fast guy and do a short track walk through there so I can find my way.
I may not be a fast guy, but I seem to do very well in T9 and T10 after coming out of Dead Bear (I need work on Dead Bear). Anyhow, I'd be happy to show you the fastest line I have found there. Also, if you get any more than half way out on T9, that is a bad thing...

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I may not be a fast guy, but I seem to do very well in T9 and T10 after coming out of Dead Bear (I need work on Dead Bear). Anyhow, I'd be happy to show you the fastest line I have found there. Also, if you get any more than half way out on T9, that is a bad thing...
I'll take you up on that. I really want to walk it and study 9-10 . Scary as it is, I know I need to be maxed out on corner speed and lean angle to carry momentum onto that front straight.

And Dead Bear is one of my favorites, funny how that works

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Scary as it is, I know I need to be maxed out on corner speed and lean angle to carry momentum onto that front straight.
I don't think it's worth the risk. While there is likely room for improvement, maxing out corner speed and lean angle into that corner doesn't leave any room for error. Those hay bails pretty much explode on impact, leaving your body flying across the track, hopefully with nobody immediately behind you. I'll go balls out into any other corner on that track (for me, that still is slow).

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If you run all the way out to the outer curb for the entrance to T10, you can minimize the angle of attack. As a matter of safety, I usually go into T10 slower than other turns and roll the power on nice and slow at the the beginning of the tiger stripes. Then get it stood up 2/3rds before opening her up. I get a bit of spin when I cross the middle seam of the track, but it doesn't slide sideways.

Most folks are better off making time entering T1 than T10.

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Yep, what he said. I aim for the inside curbing, and attack it from the inside edge of the pit in lane (just missing the dirt). Makes it far safer and less likely to hit the wall in case of an off.

Glad you are coming Chris. (I'll pay better attention to my tires this time

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Lefts feel more natural to me. I have the same feeling when slalom waterskiing, lefts just come naturally. I actually love the the sweeping up hill left at Putnam. I (I just looked at the map, it's Dead Bear.) Thats the one place that I'll hang my fat ass off as far as I can and tear up that hill. I like to go in deep and square off the lower first part. That corner was the first time I ever got off the side of the bike. I remember looking around the fairing and thinking "this can't be right, it feels weird and I can see the front wheel."

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Lefts feel more natural to me. I have the same feeling when slalom waterskiing, lefts just come naturally. I actually love the the sweeping up hill left at Putnam. I (I just looked at the map, it's Dead Bear.) Thats the one place that I'll hang my fat ass off as far as I can and tear up that hill. I like to go in deep and square off the lower first part. That corner was the first time I ever got off the side of the bike. I remember looking around the fairing and thinking "this can't be right, it feels weird and I can see the front wheel."
Oh don't get me wrong, I am knee in the grass through Dead Bear, I am just not able to carry the same speed that I can in right turns. You know you are off the bike in a good turn when there is your bike isn't in sight... LOL!

Even so, I just don't turn the throttle as much on lefts.

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Lefts feel more natural to me. I have the same feeling when slalom waterskiing, lefts just come naturally. I actually love the the sweeping up hill left at Putnam. I (I just looked at the map, it's Dead Bear.) Thats the one place that I'll hang my fat ass off as far as I can and tear up that hill. I like to go in deep and square off the lower first part. That corner was the first time I ever got off the side of the bike. I remember looking around the fairing and thinking "this can't be right, it feels weird and I can see the front wheel."

Funny my brother and I are/were both left foot forward slalom skiers and we both turn our bikes better to the left too. And I have to concentrate much harder on form going to the right. It's a intersting crossover sport with a lean to turn conection. T1,3,5 if I made it to the ball, I could turn it.


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