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What do you guys like about NESBA? How many people run in a group? Is the instruction they offer good and does anyone take advantage of it? What days are you riding?

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You have 4 or 5 NEBA control riders on this board who are always willing to follow you around the track and give you pointers. I know a lot of the people here ride both Sat and Sun, me personally I will only be riding one of those days for the weekend to reduce costs.

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You have 4 or 5 NEBA control riders on this board who are always willing to follow you around the track and give you pointers.
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I have done NESBA and STT. STT was supposed to be more structured and helpful for a new rider but I found NESBA more fun and learned more with them as well.

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What do you guys like about NESBA? How many people run in a group? Is the instruction they offer good and does anyone take advantage of it? What days are you riding?
I like it b/c the people are great and its a whole lot of fun. The instruction they offer is great and those that don't take the time to seek out a control rider before or after a session aren't spending their money the right way. Go to nesba.com for the dates, I know I'm at least doing blackhawk in april, road america in may and autobahn in july.

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If you do decide to join the NESBA family and come to an event, be sure to post up on here in one of the ROLL CALL threads we post prior to a track weekend. It gives us an opportunity to plan a little bit, for rides, beeer, ice... the important stuff.

Seriously, post up, and you can hook up or pit with someone that you may have met from the board. Anyone at NESBA events is always willing to help folks out with things, but be sure to leverage your Control Riders, they can help you on and off the track.

I am sure that I am going to forget someone, but here are the CRs that I know that participate on this board:

Garth - Midwest Regional Director, AMA Pro
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So the good news is that CLSB owners, CLSB members and NESBA have quite a close connection. To get an idea of who posts here and also head out to NESBA Track Days, check out this: NESBA Bike Number Who's Who

To respond to your group numbers, NESBA believes in managing a SAFE group size and that size varies based on track width and track length. Clearly we can put more folks safely on a track like Road America than we can at a short and tight track like Blackhawk Farms. NESBA has just reduced the maximum number at Blackhawk a second year in a row. The goal is to keep it safe and fun, keep track density down, as well as balance the desire to get as many people out to the track as possible.

NESBA is a non-profit, volunteer run organization, run by folks who love riding, but love sharing that passion and knowledge even more.

Quite a few of us will be at every, or almost every midwest event. Grab any of us, we're happy to help ya out!

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I know I am going to get flamed for saying this even though I told Tom Larson this exact same thing at Putnam last year.......



If you have never been on a track before and are not accustomed to "high performance" riding then ONE DAY in the STT Novice is for you. They do a much better job at the whole "new to the track thing". They have a 20 min class session after every on track session. During these classroom sessions they go over what the next "drill" is going to be during the next session (such as a "no brake drill", or a focusing on clutchless up shifting and blipping, etc) and talk about how to perform it.

That being said, after you go through it once it is pretty damn worthless and boring which opens a pretty dangerous I group because sign up for I that shouldnt be there but dont want to do all teh drills/classroom thing again. In my opinion NESBA leaves it up to the individual to seek out guidance help. If you don't want the help, they will not force it on you (STT makes there "group meetings" mandatory).



Now, I prefer the people/atmosphere with NESBA and choose to ride with them however, I do think that if you are new to performance riding than you either have to be "self motivated" or do a day with STT. I think the nESBA family is much closer, people ar emore willing to help out, and I think they are safer due to the "must be bumped to the next faster group" theory. Where in STT you get people signing up for the I group that shouldnt be there, but dont want to sit through the classroom again (Like I said before).

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I signed up and i'm thinking about starting with your "free 2 session ride". Does anyone know if I like those 2 sessions, can I pay the fee and ride the rest of day?

I have done 1 track day before and loved it. I'm doing one in Michigan April 6th. It's a class shedule and a great way to start. Walk the track, do some classes, ride slow and gradually get faster till you get yourself warmed up, then balls to the walls.

I thinkg I'm going to sign up for one of the earlier track days, maybe at blackhawk farms. I would like to go up with someone or a group of people from here because it would be more fun, plus it would be nice to hase someone to show me the ropes fo the group and track.

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Yes after the intro session you can pay the entrance fee and race the rest of the sessions.

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Anyone doing the April 14th or 15th day at blackhawk?

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Keep in mind, the group sizes are limited and you may not be able to ride after your 2 free sessions. Nesba rocks.
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I know I am going to get flamed for saying this If you have never been on a track before and are not accustomed to "high performance" riding then ONE DAY in the STT Novice is for you. ).


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Anyone doing the April 14th or 15th day at blackhawk?
It will most likely be sold out, so be sure to book it early. The CLSB crowd tends to swamp in on most of the Blackhawk dates. (They all pit near Turn 5)

Plan on a ton of fun on track and off track that weekend. We do a huge cookout, a big firepit, and also there is liquid consumption. Plan on making a weekend of it, Saturday night at Blackhawk is an absolute BLAST!

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FWIW, if you plan on doing the whole day, I'd just sign up now and insure
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So this is what I'm thinking. I dont' want to pay for both days since it's $180 a day. So what if I sign up for the 2 free runs on Saturday and pay for the day on Sunday? If I do the 2 free runs on Saturday, what time will that keep me on the track until?

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So this is what I'm thinking. I dont' want to pay for both days since it's $180 a day. So what if I sign up for the 2 free runs on Saturday and pay for the day on Sunday? If I do the 2 free runs on Saturday, what time will that keep me on the track until?
9:40am - 10:00am = 1st session
10:40am - 11:00am = 2nd session

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So this is what I'm thinking. I dont' want to pay for both days since it's $180 a day. So what if I sign up for the 2 free runs on Saturday and pay for the day on Sunday? If I do the 2 free runs on Saturday, what time will that keep me on the track until?
That sound like very rational thinking. After a lap or two, that bit of sanity will vaporize

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Just remember that as said above, IF you do choose that course of action, you will NOT be able to extend for the full day on Saturday unless B group is not sold out. (which is highly unlikely)

Either way, you need to sign up early.

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Yeah that's fine. i don't have $360 to drop on the weekend. Especially since I'm going to the track the weekend before and I still need to pick up a set of leathers, hitch for the car, and a trailer.

That sounds like a good plan to me. Ride till lunch, hang out an watch other riders and learn some things, ride all the next day.

I'll probably sign up today.

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ok signed up for the intro course Saturday. now I just need to pull the triger on the Sunday and becoming a member.

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Yes after the intro session you can pay the entrance fee and race the rest of the sessions.
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If you are looking for pointers, Nesba is right on. You have to ask for it though.

If you are looking for actual instruction, there are schools and instructional days put on by other organizations that are learning intensive, if thats what you are looking for.

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Hey Wink what is the total of guys who have been to Freddie Spencer who really add another level with NESBA when instructing and giving CORRECT feedback is concerned. I think this is somewhat undervalued. No other track day has as maany FS grads as NESBA MW does.

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