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post #1 of 75 (permalink) Old 03-14-2007, 09:19 PM Thread Starter
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Need Track Bike for BIG Guy

I have a friend who weighs 460 pounds and is 6'1".

What the heck should he get to start out on?

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Sounds like a job for the ZX12R.
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Id say he should start out like everyone else. he still needs to learn the controls like everyone else, but I think he may be pushing the bikes load limits, if not the tire's load limits.
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FIRST BIKE, BRIAN!!!

Shit, you're gonna kill him. I have a 12R in the garage, and I know that you had one.... but man!!! You gotta meet this guy next time that you come over.

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whats wrong with.. say.. an F4i with proper/close springs? or, 01-03 gixxer 750s can be had super cheap
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the GVWR on my 1000RR is 366 lbs, and is similar for most japanese sportbikes, handleing & safety might be huge concerns for this
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I suppose that the spring weight would fix things. I like the idea of an SV or an F4i or GSXR600 with proper springs for his weight.

Which one has the most room for a 6' 1" guy?

And do they make springs that stiff? If so, what rate would he need?

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i dont mean any disrespect but perhaps a diet and exercise program is in order prior to hitting the track? I doubt his physical conditioning can hold up to a hot track day in full leathers

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sv650

regardless of size or weight, like it's been said, you have to learn the basics.

Better than a 600 because the torque will push him along better if he is not in the right gear.

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TL1000 or VTR1000 are big bikes, physically, and they might not overwhelm him.

Humorous side note: We used to have Bill Cartright as a customer at Banzai and when he picked up his new GL1500 goldwing, we had to TILT the handlebars upward because they were hitting his knees!
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Racetech sells springs in MANY ranges.. for example they have Suzuki springs that would be optimum for a 400# rider. calculator on their website... Honda didn't look as good for the big guys.. I'm guessing due to rear linkage leverage ratio..?..
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A 250 to get the basic's down. Any bike will feel small to him and he will need to adjust his body to fit.

Has he ever rode a bike for any amount of time?
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Brand new rider, he just left my house.

He has a friend with a Kawi 650R...

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So.. he has never ridden a bike, period? Or, never ridden on the track? or?

I'm not sure how to interpret your last post
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I concur with the twin thinking, something not too edgy.

SV650 or SV1000 depending on his maturity and restraint.

Must be properly sprung and sag set up correctly.


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Given he has not rode before the 250 would be great for him.
No matter the size of the person ridding they still need the skill to control the machine.
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TL1000 lets face it, he's gonna need the extra low end torque, and its a big bike, get the suspension set up and he's good to go.




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I disagree with you.

There are two way's to learn.

The hard way
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The right way hurts much less in the long run.

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Heres a good bike for him to start on:



Put a big screen in front of him with trackday vids ...with the fan going, it will be just like being there... somewhere around 250 put him on a SV
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Heres a good bike for him to start on:
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I would be worried the guy would get out there and have a heart attack.

There are some things 460lb guys just shouldn't do, like ride trackbikes and walk on ice.
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A 250 to get the basic's down. Any bike will feel small to him and he will need to adjust his body to fit.

Has he ever rode a bike for any amount of time?
What?! A 250? ! ? !

I'm 6'1" and when I sold Aprilia 250's at Banzai (RIP ) in '98 I was "only" 235lbs. Those bikes could be lifted by the bars and riding them just up Lake St. was painful enough. The guys I've seen on 'em at the track are roughly 5'8" to 5'10" and weigh in at the 150 to 180lb. mark. . . 6'1" and 460!!!???!!!!??? He's got bigger worries than finding "the right" bike! Try a diet and go see a Dr.! I struggle with my weight too, but c'mon!

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Put a big screen in front of him with trackday vids ...with the fan going, it will be just like being there... somewhere around 250 put him on a SV


If I was forced to pick a bike for a kid this big it would be a TL1000 or GSXR750. Even those rides are going to struggle with that weight. He shouldn't be on the track without a basic understanding of how to ride anyway.


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Uhm, get him to learn how to ride a bike in the parking lot first? Just a thought

Seriously, with that much weight to toss around, he's gonna be in a world of pain regardless what bike he's on... but my vote goes to sv650, with some major work done to the suspension.
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GSXR600

Cheap and easy to find parts for, especially if this would be his first bike. Springs are pretty cheap too $100 front, $100 rear.

Also, I'm 6'2" and have no problem on my 600....while it may look weird because the bikes are built for someone 5'6", I still fit nicely.
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Has never ridden a street bike before.

Does not have his M class yet.

I do have an EX250 sitting in the garage I suppose he could learn on if he had it resprung. For the track, I was thinking as he picks up some comfort, perhaps a resprung SV650 at this point.

Brian (BFLY) do you fit on an EX?

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A little tough love is in order here.

If he is serious about riding on the track, he needs to be serious about getting into shape first.

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Yep Ron, he already knows that. You have met him, he has been over here helping with bikes before. You remember Christopher.

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