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Videos from Blackhawk (June 2/3) Multiple Angles like MotoGP :)

Here's some video from Blackhawk this past weekend. I mounted my helmet camera in different locations to get interesting perspectives from the track, almost like MotoGP stuff

Regular View of one hot lap chasing Matt on a Yamaha R6:


Rear View from my bike looking back at Matt:


Rider View (camera mounted on the dash pointed at my upper body) showing rider position around the track:


Regular View of working with Control Rider Ron Hix with track riding tips from him at the end:


enjoy...


(excuse the video chatter, something is up with my camera... maybe it's old DV tapes. If anyone knows why it's doing what it's doing, let me know... )

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 06-05-2007, 12:12 PM
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Awesome! thanks for posting and taking the vid. Too bad we couldn't get some of the other shots to work out later in the afternoon, woulda been cool to see the difference compared to these shots.

I actually like the speedo perspective of the rider. Pretty badass how you can still see some of the track ahead in the reflection in your visor!

Again, had a blast out there rippin with you Jay, we'll have to do it again for sure!
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oh, and next time I guess I'll have to stick closer on your tail, I seem to have been a bit too far back. nice ridin'
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Hey... I was in that video when you were working with Hix... around the 3:20 mark. Any tips for me?

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you need to get off the bike more

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What camera setup are you using?

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Hey... I was in that video when you were working with Hix... around the 3:20 mark. Any tips for me?
Avoid neutral in the bustop. jk .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPJSilszCSI



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Awesome! thanks for posting and taking the vid. Too bad we couldn't get some of the other shots to work out later in the afternoon, woulda been cool to see the difference compared to these shots.

I actually like the speedo perspective of the rider. Pretty badass how you can still see some of the track ahead in the reflection in your visor!

Again, had a blast out there rippin with you Jay, we'll have to do it again for sure!
Yeah, bummer that I couldn't get the low-mount shots to work out. They look the best usually; adds a great sense of speed. Oh well, next time.

I know, pretty cool about the reflective visor, huh and interesting how this view actually makes you learn the track more, cause you have to visualize the track according to what the rider is doing... I love that track!

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Nice vids Jay! Looking good!
What camera setup are you using?
My DV camcorder is a Canon Elura 100 and the helmet camera I'm using for the various other views is the Twenty 20 Camera, which plugs into an AV input on the camcorder. Not sure why I'm getting so much video skipping through corners. Before it happened under heavy braking, but through corners, there's not really that many big bumps...

Anyone know more about DV tapes? These have been re-recorded about 5 times over. Is that the life of a DV tape? Seems like the head is skipping while recording.

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I had no idea you were running video. If I did, I would have kicked Wink's bike over for him as he come though at the bus stop.

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Hey Jammin,

Here's a pic of Rossi doing what we were talking about on the video.

See how he ALREADY has the bike turned long BEFORE the APEX. As a result , the trajectory and momentum of the bike as it goes past the apex allows him to get on the gas EARLY and HAAAARD.


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Hey Jammin,

Here's a pic of Rossi doing what we were talking about on the video.

See how he ALREADY has the bike turned long BEFORE the APEX. As a result , the trajectory and momentum of the bike as it goes past the apex allows him to get on the gas EARLY and HAAAARD.

Yup, I get the theory of it, but doesn't that mean that you need to make a sharper turn after turn 4 before the apex of 5, meaning you need to brake more or less throttle to get that turn in or probably more lean angle, right? And I guess with more corner speed through 4, the bike would be easier to turn and setup for 5, right?

I was watching some Advanced guys who weren't driving all the way to the right of the track after apexing turn 5.

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When you come out of four you aim at the access road - track right.

When you get there your roll off ( or drag the front brake just a touch ) to
load the front wheel and then turn the bike in for 5.

When you get to the apex curb, your knee grazez the far end of it and your
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Further...... what is important is this.


Where is the bike POINTED when you reach the apex ?



When you take the shallow approach, you get to the apex and the bike is
pointed at the silo over by 6B.....across the track...... you still have a LOT
of turning to do and cannot open the throttle.


When taking the wider approach, you get to the apex and the bikes turning
is completed, the bike is pointed up track to 6a and all you need to do is
stand it up ( to improve rear grip ) and wind it on.



Make sense ?


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Further...... what is important is this.


Where is the bike POINTED when you reach the apex ?
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Yeah, what he said.

You drop lap times while on the throttle more so than while on the brakes.

The best line is the one that allows you to get the bike turned quickly and safely and get back to full throttle as soon as possible.

After you working with you a bit this weekend, I think you are at the point in your development where you need to be thinking DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE. Once you are consistently getting excellent drives out of all the corners, then start working on LATE BRAKING...but never at the expense of getting a good DRIVE.

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After you working with you a bit this weekend, I think you are at the point in your development where you need to be thinking DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE. Once you are consistently getting excellent drives out of all the corners, then start working on LATE BRAKING...but never at the expense of getting a good DRIVE.
Excellent, thanx Ron. That's what I was trying to think about the whole weekend: setup before the corner for a good drive out of the corner. At the start of the weekend, I was still coasting through the corners and getting on the gas way too late. Once I started applying the throttle before the apex and driving through, I was able to get much higher corner speeds than before. Will work on it more.

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