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Post gingerman: this is going to be one of my regular tracks now

After a weekend there I have to say this track is awesome. Great weather, awesome camping, good crowd, great CRs, and of Fred did an awesome job running the event as usual. If you haven't been to Gingerman, you really need to check it out. The track layout is awesome, the camping is great, dinner at Thirsty Perch rules, and it's just a good atmosphere. I feel like i'm on vacation when I go to this track. There has been threads in the past talking negatively about gingerman's surface because of the seems. I agree, it was distracting in the past, but they have done some improvement to them and I can tell you it wasn't an issue at all. I didn't hear one person have a problem with it. Now the grass in turn #10, that's a different story

If you get a chance, the track is only a few hours from Chicago, come check this out. I think you will really enjoy it. Its going back on my list of tracks i visit regularly.

It was great seeing everyone out there. I had so much fun this weekend. And a HUGE thanks to Turn One. I really appreciate all the help this weekend. if it wasn't for your guys I wouldn't have had tire to ride wither bike, the valve stems on my 600 would have been leaking air all weekend, I wouldn't have had new case guards to protect my bike, and i wouldn't have had as enjoyable of a weekend. Thanks for the support!

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I concur wholeheartedly. I had an absolute blast there last time! It is close, relatively lightly attended so tons of open track, and I love the area.

Although I did NOT like it the first time I was there, I have had a total blast since then and really look forward to heading out there. Glad to hear that you had a great weekend out there.

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good showers too, it's a great spot that's close by. I really appreciate all the runoff room for most of the track(I've used it before). If anybody is new to the track I highly recommend it, way safer than Blackhawk.

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Steve it was great pitting next to ya, got some good advice and free candy from your mom. I agree it was a great weekend with perfect weather...I look like a crab now.

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good showers too, it's a great spot that's close by. I really appreciate all the runoff room for most of the track(I've used it before). If anybody is new to the track I highly recommend it, way safer than Blackhawk.
Yeh I used up all the grass and all of the sand when I came in hot into turn 3 once. Took me forever to drag the bike out of the foot deep trench I plowed.

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Yeh I used up all the grass and all of the sand when I came in hot into turn 3 once. Took me forever to drag the bike out of the foot deep trench I plowed.
damn, I blew the little kink(t-4) one time on my first lap and was grass riding at about 80mph. I've also blown 6 a couple times getting in too hot trying to out brake people....I miss the track.

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What a great weekend! I had a blast and nice seeing everyone at the track (it's been a while for me). Yeah, the seems weren't an issue at all and I really like the rhythm of the track, keeps you working all the time. I'm so sore - feels so good

Yeah, that's got to the one of the best camping spots at a track. And thanx to Steve's parents for the lunch spread.

Low turn out was a plus, track was never crowded. I finally got the suspension set on my bike and it feels great. Thank you TurnOne

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Yeh it was my 2nd session and it just came up on me faster than I thought it would...I got into the grass at about 80 and just rode it out. That was probably my best riding all weekend, keeping up through the grass and sand. :lmao

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It was good riding with the Nesba crew again this season. I, too, forgot how much fun Gingerman can be. It is quite a technical track, but rewards you if you link everything up right. Marshall mentioned how they filled in some of the sections of the connecting sealer strips which made the transitions across the seams so much better than I remember them... Unfortunately the bumps in some of the other sections were as bad as ever.

Wish I could have stayed for Saturday, but family time called before I have to go back to school. Hope Sunday was fun for all.
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oh hell yea, what a great weekend!

a HUGE thanks to...
the 3 musketeers at T1R, matt for snapping some pics, dave for bringing the extra boots i never used, the delicious perch that sacrificed their lives for my amazing dinner, steve for bringing his parents, smiley for bein' cool when i cut inside of him and his student on turn 4 , greg for driving home after i fell asleep at the wheel, brian and steve for double teaming me on my "I" bump session, everyone else in my pit area, andrew and jay for bein' good neighbors, fred for doing whatever he does, citibank for giving me a nice big credit line to feed the new addiction, mike for givin' me a run for my money on saturday, the sand at the apex of T9 for holding my lean, and all the other CRs that helped me improve

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That was too much fun. I had couple of off track excusion (I was just sight seein ) and had my rear off the groud about 1.5' but managed to stay on two (thank god) I wish I coulda stayed for sunday but I prolly couldn't afford it anyway. It was cool meetin some of you ppl and hope to see yall again at the track soon.

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Hmm, I'll have to give it another try, hated the seams last year for sure. Always thought it had huge potential, minus the Armco barriers.
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I was there Saturday on my motard. Shame I didn't get to meet any of you. Anyone have link to the photographer's site?

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Hmm, I'll have to give it another try, hated the seams last year for sure. Always thought it had huge potential, minus the Armco barriers.
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I can't stand the seams at that track. And don't anyone bother trying to explain that if you just take a certain line.... Everyone knows that that track was made with cars in mind, not bikes.

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And don't anyone bother trying to explain that if you just take a certain line.... Everyone knows that that track was made with cars in mind, not bikes.
the line makes the difference on every track we ride. every track isn't perfect and some lines make the riding smoother than other lines. so you can't ignore that.

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the line makes the difference on every track we ride. every track isn't perfect and some lines make the riding smoother than other lines. so you can't ignore that.
Sure, I understand that, but at many other tracks they don't have 2 inches of asphalt missing in a continuous line around the track, like gingerman. I want to race at a track where I'm racing with the track design, not against the track flaws. In other words, it shouldn't be an obstacle course.

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I was there Saturday on my motard. Shame I didn't get to meet any of you. Anyone have link to the photographer's site?

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yes the seams suck!
man you were flying through the corners on that husky of yours.

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Gawd...perfect picture above. Look at those friggen seams! I forgot, there's two of 'em.

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I crashed because of the seams early on Saturday. Not so much because I lost traction on them, but because I was coming up on one of them at sort of the wrong angle and decided that I couldn't turn in anymore at that point because I was right parallel with the damned thing. Ran it in late into the marbles and dust and promptly highsided when I got back on the gas. It's all in the mind...

They aren't that bad, and you can go pretty quick over them but I'll can say that for my first time there, I had a lot more fun off the track than on the track cuz of those damned seams. If they got rid of those and smoothed out some areas it'd be an absolute blast. I'll chalk it up with Iowa Speedway as one of those places that's fun to go to but not much fun to actually ride on.

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i know i'm at a slower pace than a lot of u guys, but i actually thought the seams were a nice point of reference in some turns...

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how long did that drive take u?
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how long did that drive take u?
~5hrs from NWI. Probably longer if you are towing.

VERY VERY nice track.

but not as technical as the track map makes it look.

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I had a great time this weekend. The lower turnout made for more attention and help from the CR's.

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There has been threads in the past talking negatively about gingerman's surface because of the seems. I agree, it was distracting in the past, but they have done some improvement to them and I can tell you it wasn't an issue at all. I didn't hear one person have a problem with it. Now the grass in turn #10, that's a different story

It was great seeing everyone out there. I had so much fun this weekend. And a HUGE thanks to Turn One. I really appreciate all the help this weekend. if it wasn't for your guys I wouldn't have had tire to ride wither bike, the valve stems on my 600 would have been leaking air all weekend, I wouldn't have had new case guards to protect my bike, and i wouldn't have had as enjoyable of a weekend. Thanks for the support!
Grass in turn #10 and new case covers... Spill the beans, what happened?

I heard Gu and Dave Lockhart highsided too.

Was it due to the track surface or you guys playing rough?

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I put new case guards on the bike Saturday night just to get the 600rr race ready.

Well I was just pushing it harder than ever. Basically trying to treat the session as a race. I took turn 10 really fast, tires slid a bit and then they stuck trying to highside me. I was able to hold on, but by the time I had control of the bike I was off into the grass. The bike then highsided me into the grass while it went for a nice little roll in the dirt.

Bike Damage: tons of cracked bodywork, broken front brake lever, broken right clip on, bent subframe, bent stock exhaust. Not a scratch on anything else. Pretty good deal.

Personal Damage: I landed really hard. Felt like I fell off a 30' roof. Nothing broken, really sore until today. Thank god for nice run off area and good gear.

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Ouch! Glad you're alright. Welcome to the club.

Showing off for the family huh? j/k

Maybe we can get Wink or Greg to show us how to fix bodywork. I have my old set that I can use Labor Day weekend but I do want to fix the newer set.

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I put new case guards on the bike Saturday night just to get the 600rr race ready.

Well I was just pushing it harder than ever. Basically trying to treat the session as a race. I took turn 10 really fast, tires slid a bit and then they stuck trying to highside me. I was able to hold on, but by the time I had control of the bike I was off into the grass. The bike then highsided me into the grass while it went for a nice little roll in the dirt.

Bike Damage: tons of cracked bodywork, broken front brake lever, broken right clip on, bent subframe, bent stock exhaust. Not a scratch on anything else. Pretty good deal.

Personal Damage: I landed really hard. Felt like I fell off a 30' roof. Nothing broken, really sore until today. Thank god for nice run off area and good gear.

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Ouch! Glad you're alright. Welcome to the club.

Showing off for the family huh? j/k

Maybe we can get Wink or Greg to show us how to fix bodywork. I have my old set that I can use Labor Day weekend but I do want to fix the newer set.
+1, glad you're OK too Steve!

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