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Custom ear plugs being made at Blackhawk this weekend.

Tired of wrestling with keeping ear plugs in your ears when taking your helmet on and off? Yeah, me too.

I had a set of custom ear plugs made over the winter and I am really digging them. I put them into my ears and slip on my helmet and they stay in place perfect.

So, Brian Blume and I ponied up the cash to go to Colorado and get trained on how to make these things. We got a bunch of the materials and are setup and ready to make you guys some custom ear plugs.

These ear plugs can be made and worn in the same day.

To help cover our materials costs, recoup our travel and training expenses, the price for the plugs is $75.

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But what makes these different than the kit from Cabela's?

are you serious? That stuff just looks a bunch of goo you stuff in your ear...you think they would have done a little better job of staging that picture

Our plugs are very different. Our plugs are custom molded to your ear and STAY in that exact shape for as long as you own them, they don't require you to ball them up and shove them in, in addition you won't have an issue putting on your helmet and having them fall out...our plugs stay in your ear securely while you slide your helmet on your head.

The problem with using the goo you posted or the little spongy plugs is that the user rarely puts them in right or deep enough and therefore the desired effect (sufficient reduction is noise) is not achieved everytime, our plugs give you the guarantee that they will block the same amount of noise from the first time you use them to the 50th time you use them.....the difference is when you use a plug that YOU mold to your ear its difficult to insert or to put it in the same way every single time, since our plugs are molded to YOUR ear and don't change their shape...they go in the same way everytime. When you don't insert them the same way everytime the amount of db's being let in changes. Ideally you would like to inject the silicone just past the second bend in your ear canal to achieve a perfect fit and to get the desired reduction in DB's....you also want to insert an OTO block into the ear canal to prevent any silicone reaching the ear drum....this is not possible to do with the set of plugs that you posted. There is NO WAY you can self fit a set of molded ear plugs properly.

The reason that we decided to do these is because I really couldn't wear plugs because I developed a "hot spot" in my ear while wearing them...it was like my ear would get tender when I would wear the foam ear plugs to long. Our ear plugs are molded to your ear and since its a perfect fit to your own ear there are no hot spots at all...and if you feel one...we can modify the plug to relieve the pressure on that spot for you.

There are a few more differences...that I could show you...if you have some interest in wearing a quality set of ear plugs that will last a loooonnnngggg time...come see Ron or I at our pits...if you want to stuff goo in your ear.....good luck with that.

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these are great guys, ive been using a set of those custom made ear plugs perfectly custom molded to my ear. you work them in and out "once you get the hang of it, its great" ive got mine made up years ago from one of the gun shows.

same thing as you guys are talking about, but sorry to say it was cheaper and done by certified ear and throat specialist.



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$75 is a good price. The local guy up here charges $100.

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same thing as you guys are talking about, but sorry to say it was cheaper and done by certified ear and throat specialist.
We have done our homework on the price Ken. After all, its not like we are gonna get rich making $75 ear plugs for a few guys at the track!

The $75 price tag is the standard price nationwide, not just a made up number. It also represents our needs to recoup our incurred expenses of getting trained and setup to make them.

You may get a few dollars off at a big convention (like a gun show for instance) as a special promotion, but I think the price is quite reasonable for a product that will last you forever and comes with a lifetime warranty.

Although we are certainly not certified ear and throat specialists, I want to be clear that we spent some pretty nice coin traveling out to Coloroda to get professionally trained on how to do these things. So, no worries there.

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$75 is a good price. The local guy up here charges $100.

Wish I were closer, I'd be all over this.

100.00 that dude is fucken nuts!

65 bucks here http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&cl...81711299220643, but if you guys get them done at the track side and these are the same thing 75 bucks is a deal of Ron or firecat dont use screw drivers to shove the stuff down your ear...



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We have done our homework on the price Ken. After all, its not like we are gonna get rich making $75 ear plugs for a few guys at the track!

The $75 price tag is the standard price nationwide, not just a made up number. It also represents our needs to recoup our incurred expenses of getting trained and setup to make them.

You may get a few dollars off at a big convention (like a gun show for instance) as a special promotion, but I think the price is quite reasonable for a product that will last you forever and comes with a lifetime warranty.

Although we are certainly not certified ear and throat specialists, I want to be clear that we spent some pretty nice coin traveling out to Coloroda to get professionally trained on how to do these things. So, no worries there.

good deal then, and good luck.

for what its worth, mine was well worth the investment, still lasting me just fine after 5 years and with a little soap and warm water wash. minty clean for the next use.



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Yes you can, but we did not get the speakers and all the extra materials required to do those. For now, we are setup to just do the plain custom ear plugs.

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good deal then, and good luck.

for what its worth, mine was well worth the investment, still lasting me just fine after 5 years and with a little soap and warm water wash. minty clean for the next use.
Thanks Ken! I do believe in the product or I would not be involved.

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Thanks Ken! I do believe in the product or I would not be involved.
i wouldn't use em or promote em if i thought there were shit.

and like i noted and ill say it different.

you gotta be a cheap sum of a bitch to not may 75 bucks to get them done track side WHILE you wait.

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Brian or Ron,

What is the noise reduction rating of the custom plugs in dB? at both A and C weighting?

I'm pretty happy with the foam jobbers I've been buying in Canada. I don't get any discomfort from them at all. They are rated at 33dB (A weighted) and seem to be doing at least that. (Yes, I do understand about dB and weighting curves. Among other things, I'm an audio / sound engineer.)

I'd probably go with the custom ones if they provided additional protection.

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Brian or Ron,

What is the noise reduction rating of the custom plugs in dB? at both A and C weighting?

I'm pretty happy with the foam jobbers I've been buying in Canada. I don't get any discomfort from them at all. They are rated at 33dB (A weighted) and seem to be doing at least that. (Yes, I do understand about dB and weighting curves. Among other things, I'm an audio / sound engineer.)

I'd probably go with the custom ones if they provided additional protection.
I don't have the stuff with me, Brian has got it with him so I'll let him jump in with the exact tech specs.

From personal experience, I will say that they are much quieter than the foam ear plugs. It cuts all the surrounding noise so when I'm on the bike, it is real nice and calm. I can hear the motor really well and hear other bikes around me as well.

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Brian or Ron,I'm pretty happy with the foam jobbers I've been buying in Canada. They are rated at 33dB (A weighted) and seem to be doing at least that.

I'd probably go with the custom ones if they provided additional protection.

The problem with the foam jobbers is that they are "rated" for 33dbs but that is IF the user installs them correctly...in the analysis done they were not fitted correctly the majority of times and averaged only 18 dbs instead of 33 dbs. My understanding is that these rating advertisements are in the process of being changed involuntarily on those foam ones because of this data.

My advise is this...come over to our pits...take a look at them and I'm sure you will see that they will do the job quite nicely for you and will be able to supply superior protection over foam plugs.

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Although we are certainly not certified ear and throat specialists, I want to be clear that we spent some pretty nice coin traveling out to Coloroda to get professionally trained on how to do these things. So, no worries there.
Just to clarify Ron's statement...while we are not certified ear and throat specialists, I am certified to make these plugs. Also...for the record I will not inject silicone in your throat...I will just stick to the ears.

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No beer, but will hard liquor work?

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Just to clarify Ron's statement...while we are not certified ear and throat specialists, I am certified to make these plugs. Also...for the record I will not inject silicone in your throat...I will just stick to the ears.


i can see you firekat trying to do your job, and Ron is around the other side of the tent holding silicone dildos stuffing em down peoples throats

sorry i couldnt help myself i just had to say it since you hit on that area there.



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but if you guys get them done at the track side and these are the same thing 75 bucks is a deal of Ron or firecat dont use screw drivers to shove the stuff down your ear...
I can guarantee that we won't use a screwdriver.

Ron....the long extension is missing from my socket set...it went missing about the time you did that last set of ear plugs. You wouldn't have any idea where it is...would you?

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Working on 1 set straight though....1 hour from start to finish

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Ron....the long extension is missing from my socket set...it went missing about the time you did that last set of ear plugs. You wouldn't have any idea where it is...would you?



say sometime i would like a spare set made. you guys just have single colors are you also able to do those cool mixed colors. either way i dont care but i want another set sometime later this year. its tough to always remember to grab them and put them back into my gear bags when i use them for other stuff then shooting guns and making love to whinny women.



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say sometime i would like a spare set made. you guys just have single colors are you also able to do those cool mixed colors. either way i dont care but i want another set sometime later this year. its tough to always remember to grab them and put them back into my gear bags when i use them for other stuff then shooting guns and making love to whinny women.
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The problem with the foam jobbers is that they are "rated" for 33dbs but that is IF the user installs them correctly...in the analysis done they were not fitted correctly the majority of times and averaged only 18 dbs instead of 33 dbs. My understanding is that these rating advertisements are in the process of being changed involuntarily on those foam ones because of this data.
You are right that the vast majority of users don't install the foam units correctly. One night in a coal-fired power plant will cure you of that. It did me!
Seriously, I see most users with the foam hanging out of their ears. That won't provide near the protection rated.

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