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Victory vs harley

Ok think about get a new bike Vegas jackpot or wide glide. The problem is the vegas is 17,500 with all nice stuff and the glide with about + more. I have demo ride coming up at arlington victory dealer. I like my dealer were got the buell,but I think it going to be more money to do same think on a harley. WHat you guys and gal think
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Everyone I have spoken to that has gone from a Harley to a Victory has said they would never go back. I rode one and found it much nicer to ride and has alot more power that is standard.
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Both are nice American bikes. I prefer the huge dealer network behind the HD name. It kinda makes me feel all warm and fuzzy when I'm a few thousand miles from home and I know there's a HD dealer nearby just in case. Not that the new bikes need a bunch of support, but maybe a quick once over, oil change or rubber swap and the always present free cup-o-joe.

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Victory all day!

(Don't worry about needing a dealer. . . it's NOT a Harley!)

Got two friends that are Techs at Lake Shore Harley here in Libertyville and the big joke is that Harley buyers spend $4000 in crome and other goodies and then another $2000 to add horse power. All said and done - the bike is now slower and less reliable than stock, which wasn't that great to begin with! Buy the Victory! Test ride 'em or ask riders who have owned both and you'll be a Victory owner!

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I looked at becoming a Victory dealer for a while and I'm glad I didn't. First of all, they all look the same. I crosschecked the technical engine/chassis data and it showed that they only had 2 different bikes. Victory shows a line of about 6 bikes, including 1 bagger, and the other 5 of them are the exact same with different accessories.

Secondly, they take a HUGE hit in the first couple years. Their depreciation is much higher than the rest of the Asian bikes and I would lose my ass on all of the inventory I had in just 6 months. Look around at various Victory dealerships and see just how many 05 and 04 bikes they have in stock. If you find that they have more than one or two, don't buy one.

Third of all, I've spoken with various Polaris service technicians and they have steered me away from Victory Motorcycles.

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I'm a big fan of the Hammer, and like the 8-ball too. Richard James is the only one I ever heard talk bad about the Victory's

I would have no problem buying a Victory. When it's crusier time for me, that's what I'll be looking at first.

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I looked at becoming a Victory dealer for a while and I'm glad I didn't. First of all, they all look the same. I crosschecked the technical engine/chassis data and it showed that they only had 2 different bikes. Victory shows a line of about 6 bikes, including 1 bagger, and the other 5 of them are the exact same with different accessories.

Secondly, they take a HUGE hit in the first couple years. Their depreciation is much higher than the rest of the Asian bikes and I would lose my ass on all of the inventory I had in just 6 months. Look around at various Victory dealerships and see just how many 05 and 04 bikes they have in stock. If you find that they have more than one or two, don't buy one.

Third of all, I've spoken with various Polaris service technicians and they have steered me away from Victory Motorcycles.
I have to say you the only one that has said not to buy victory. I haven't heard anything bad about their bikes. Were are you get your info from.

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did you look at a warrior yet? there is a reason it won
all those cruiser shoot outs. there's also a lot of
after market parts for it. but if it's just a choice
between the two i'd go with the victory
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I have to say you the only one that has said not to buy victory. I haven't heard anything bad about their bikes. Were are you get your info from.
Look at who's saying what and what they ride. all the guys who actually have3 cruisers listed in thier profiles are telling you to go Harley. the sportbike only guys who hate harleys are telling you to go victory. Victory does share some advantage as people who hate harleys finnaly have anotheramerican brand to point to as a possibility. But i still woudlnt buy a victory yet. it's not a proven platform, and you could end up like an indian owner with no dealers at all to get service or parts from.




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Also Richard James is the one informed comment. He has done what I believe is the right kind of research if you're basing the decision on value/resale.

I went HD because of the following...in this order too.
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Hmm, what I got out of that was buy a used one and let someone else suffer the depreciation.

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Look at who's saying what and what they ride. all the guys who actually have3 cruisers listed in thier profiles are telling you to go Harley. the sportbike only guys who hate harleys are telling you to go victory. Victory does share some advantage as people who hate harleys finnaly have anotheramerican brand to point to as a possibility. But i still woudlnt buy a victory yet. it's not a proven platform, and you could end up like an indian owner with no dealers at all to get service or parts from.
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Victory = Polaris

Not proven??? How do you figure that out?? They've been making the bikes since 1998 and Polaris has been around since the early 50s. Parts will not be a problem or dealer service will not be a problem either.

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Is a Victory considered a metric bike?

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did you look at a warrior yet? there is a reason it won
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Who owns a Victory?

I really like them, never rode one, I would like to. If I were to buy a brand new cruiser a victory would be up on the list.

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Well I have personal experience with the Victory 8-ball Vegas, and I own a Yamaha Warrior...

Well my Warrior has work done to it, but it will walk the 8 ball severly. My buddies 8-ball (was at strats and Naper last night) is a great looking, sounding and featured bike. The only problem, the aftermarket isn't there yet. The warrior and the HD (even more so) have good to great support. I did like the Victory, but there has to be something done immediately with some of the parts.. seat, bars, forward controls, etc...

So basically it is what you want. All are nice bikes... next time you are out stop by and say hi, check out my bike, and my buddies victory, like Richard James said, the Victory bikes are basically the same just different accessories and a fatter tire and chrome....
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Well I have personal experience with the Victory 8-ball Vegas, and I own a Yamaha Warrior...

Well my Warrior has work done to it, but it will walk the 8 ball severly. My buddies 8-ball (was at strats and Naper last night) is a great looking, sounding and featured bike. The only problem, the aftermarket isn't there yet. The warrior and the HD (even more so) have good to great support. I did like the Victory, but there has to be something done immediately with some of the parts.. seat, bars, forward controls, etc...

So basically it is what you want. All are nice bikes... next time you are out stop by and say hi, check out my bike, and my buddies victory, like Richard James said, the Victory bikes are basically the same just different accessories and a fatter tire and chrome....
That Warrior you have is a nice looking Machine.

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Who owns a Victory?

Thats a good quesiton right there. You rarly see them on the streets. I just dont see them being around in 10 years. but hey I could be wrong.

And yes to whoever was asking I do own a Harley. I've owned many bikes, this is my first Harley and I'm lovin it. dont believe the stereotypes about them.




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I went to that new Harley delaership in Glenview last weekend. I still like the Night Rod, (yeah I know, form over function).

And I really liked that Road King. I like the minimal amout of crap attached to it. Just a CD player, fairing, and a pair of sadlebags. That's all I would want for a nice road trip

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The rods (v and street) are very quick machines, I have yet to pull up next to one. A stock warrior will get spanked by a rod, but I hope that I could hang with one...

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If I had the disposable income there would be a street rod sitting next to the bagger. but that would be an expensive second bike.




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Thats a good quesiton right there. You rarly see them on the streets. I just dont see them being around in 10 years. but hey I could be wrong.

And yes to whoever was asking I do own a Harley. I've owned many bikes, this is my first Harley and I'm lovin it. dont believe the stereotypes about them.
You guys don't read very well. Read my last post.

Victory = Polaris

They will be around for a LONG LONG TIME. Parts will be around for a LONG LONG time.

They have been making the bikes for 8 years now and the have been in business since the early 50s.

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If I had the disposable income there would be a street rod sitting next to the bagger. but that would be an expensive second bike.
I've rented a few Vrods and street rods. They are stop light tire smoking fast bikes.

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Road Kings do not have fairings...or CD players for that matter. You must have been looking at the Electra GLide family.
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You guys don't read very well. Read my last post.

Victory = Polaris

They will be around for a LONG LONG TIME. Parts will be around for a LONG LONG time.

They have been making the bikes for 8 years now and the have been in business since the early 50s.
I read, and I already know that. I just dont see them making enough money to not be a burden on polaris as thier other lines of business make more money for them. I think (if I rember correctly) they just turned a profit for the first time just last year.




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Victory = Polaris

They will be around for a LONG LONG TIME. Parts will be around for a LONG LONG time.

They have been making the bikes for 8 years now and the have been in business since the early 50s.
Do you know when Polaris purchased Victory? If you did, you woulld also realize they can just as easily sell them off or dump the name entirely if the become unprofitable.

I looked closely at the Victory line and thought they were way too flashy for my taste.
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