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Trying to help out a friend/CLSB memeber, with her car. Her car sounded like (from what she told me) it cut out the other day when she got to work. So i figured id start with the most logical checking the alternator. Is there anyway to check it short of taking it off the car and having autozone or someone check it (i dont got much in the way of tools only whats needed to get by).

any other ideas on what to check. im guessing its the alternator, as usually when the car just suddenly looses power with the lights dimming, usually (at least with my past 2 cars), its been a bad alternator draining out the battery. hence why im starting with that first. except her car started up afterwork, and when her dad drove it the other day.

background i know is the battery and alternator were both replaced just under/just over a year ago, but i figure check easiest and work my way down.

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amp meter should show 13+ at the battery while running.Most shops (auto) will have a load test machine for the battery.

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Check and make sure the belt isn't slipping. That would cause intermittent problems.

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Being this is CLSB we'll probably need some pictures of the chick before we can correctly diagnose the problem.


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Being this is CLSB we'll probably need some pictures of the chick before we can correctly diagnose the problem.

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If the battery is drained, she's probably been driving on battery for a while, so the alternator is most likely shot. It's happened to me twice on on my Lumina. Glad to be rid of that car now.

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Trying to help out a friend/CLSB memeber, with her car. Her car sounded like (from what she told me) it cut out the other day when she got to work. So i figured id start with the most logical checking the alternator. Is there anyway to check it short of taking it off the car and having autozone or someone check it (i dont got much in the way of tools only whats needed to get by).

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background i know is the battery and alternator were both replaced just under/just over a year ago, but i figure check easiest and work my way down.

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take another battery and drive it to autozone and let them test it. I have a tester but my employ has it. If you can wait till later I can come check the battery and charging system. What year, make, and model car? Any check engine lights?

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take another battery and drive it to autozone and let them test it. I have a tester but my employ has it. If you can wait till later I can come check the battery and charging system. What year, make, and model car? Any check engine lights?
its a 04 chevy caviler with no lights that she saw. ill probably shoot over to her house eaither today or tommrow to start, toying with it. ill ask her and see if shes willing to drive down to you to have it checked. as long as i can get the problem figured out. it shouldnt be to hard for me to fix.

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check for loose or corroded connestions at the battery first, then check running voltage at teh battery as ressurection suggested

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its a 04 chevy caviler with no lights that she saw. ill probably shoot over to her house eaither today or tommrow to start, toying with it. ill ask her and see if shes willing to drive down to you to have it checked. as long as i can get the problem figured out. it shouldnt be to hard for me to fix.
What town does she live in? I can come by there and check it out.

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I think that hooking it to a scope is in order.

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not sure what your meaning by that kegger but got a good feeling that its along the same lines of vcook's and xgamesboi's post

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I think that hooking it to a scope is in order.
your diagnostic skills are superior than Vcook. vcook is letting me down and ob1 kenobi
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not sure what your meaning by that kegger but got a good feeling that its along the same lines of vcook's and xgamesboi's post
Nope, just an attempt at some comedic flashback from days long gone by.

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and ouch....Laps in mind use, didnt noticed i posted this in the Cruiser section and not the 4 wheel section. Sorry mods

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It could be a few things. I'd check them in this order
1) Battery, take it in to get tested. If the battery is trash no amount of charging will help.
2) Check the connections at the battery and alternator. They should be tight and clean.
3) Check the alternator belt. If the alternator isn't turning, it wont charge.
4) With a good battery connected start the car and measure the following
4a) DC voltage at the battery should be over 13 volts
4b) AC voltage at the battery should be less than 1 volt
4c) Using amp clamp, DC current should be flowing into the battery, the actual level will depend on the state of charge of the battery, but you should expect atleast 5-10amps at idle when you first start the car.
4d) Using amp clamp, AC current should be less than 1 amp.

If your AC measurements are too high you have a problem with the alternator diodes or rectifier.
If your DC voltage is good but the DC current is low i'd suspect your connections or a bad battery (but you should have already verified your battery was good before doing these tests.)

All said, most shops have battery and charging system testers and can quickly get you sorted out. I work for the leading company that produces this equipment and if all else fails you could bring the car to our facility in willowbrook

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All said, most shops have battery and charging system testers and can quickly get you sorted out. I work for the leading company that produces this equipment and if all else fails you could bring the car to our facility in willowbrook
they looking for any software engineers?
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We're looking to hire an intern, I was at an IIT career fair last week and we'll be bringing some candidates in next week. No full time positions available at this time.

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still need interns? i'm assuming your using assembler?

I don't have any experience to get a regular coding job cuz they want 3 years experience.
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still need interns? i'm assuming your using assembler?

I don't have any experience to get a regular coding job cuz they want 3 years experience.
Must be proficient in C for embedded systems, experience with microchip or freescale processors preferred. Also strong knowledge of PCB schematics and circuit debugging required.

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Looks like TDS will have to fall back on his taxidermy skills.

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Must be proficient in C for embedded systems, experience with microchip or freescale processors preferred. Also strong knowledge of PCB schematics and circuit debugging required.
so its more elect engineering interns? i was thinking of getting a degree in that, later on. And i got a strong background in automotive technologies. rather do something in auto then making databases or website crap

i did C so long ago.


Do you know a company that is in willowbrook? they make handheld devices for john deere tractors. I saw them looking for software guys but didn't get a name from their job ad.


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Looks like TDS will have to fall back on his taxidermy skills.
or driving to plainfield to moisturize odysseys back after his back waxes. like lotioning up a grizzly bear thats hairless and had to many to drink
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Yeah sorry, EE or CE position. We do some work for John Deere, but that's a very very small part of our business, and we only have one guy that does it, I think it's referbing old instruments or something along those lines. It was a side business our CEO bought out like 20 years ago lol... Not sure what other company locally would do anything for them.

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i know john deere tractors have hand held devices to give out GPS locations on the farm and give readings of the vehicle.

So i'm assuming the ad was to do the coding for those devices.


UIC was no help in me picking a computer field. They have like 4 or 5 degrees. And the advisor was no help. oh well.
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