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This is so far off the charts it almost does not deserve a response. It's also a perfect example of the Ron Paul demographic and how nutty he is on a bunch of topics.

This bullshit you posted conveniently left out the hypothetical part that America attacked USSR and\or China first on it's own soil killing 3K+ innocent world citizens in the name of allah and a religious jihad. It also left out the hypothetical part that America is responsible for 98% of terrorist events throughout the world. It also conveniently left out the hypothetical that China and USSR run the global economy and are the largest philanthropists on the planet. This is awesome propaganda for the non-thinking set though.
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This is so far off the charts it almost does not deserve a response. It's also a perfect example of the Ron Paul demographic and how nutty he is on a bunch of topics.

This bullshit you posted conveniently left out the hypothetical part that America attacked USSR and\or China first on it's own soil killing 3K+ innocent world citizens in the name of allah and a religious jihad. It also left out the hypothetical part that America is responsible for 98% of terrorist events throughout the world. It also conveniently left out the hypothetical that China and USSR run the global economy and are the largest philanthropists on the planet. This is awesome propaganda for the non-thinking set though.
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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>the non-thinking set
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You do understand that this is a shot at American foreign policy, yes?
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what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Sorry to hear its that far over your head.
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You do understand that this is a shot at American foreign policy, yes?
Dude... even in spite of the ADHD presentation of tinfoil hatisms in there, I don't think the "shot at foreign policy" was all that subtle.

I think the commentary that followed was more a reaction to the pathetic attempt at fear mongering, and less a quote from an Adam Sandler movie.

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Sorry to hear its that far over your head.
You do understand that this video is not meant to instill fear in Americans, yeah? The commentary you made directly follows the line of argument made in the "attention deficit hyperactivity disorder" short, but for some reason it seems as if you're arguing against the ideas.

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So that's a "no" on the am for pol thought, I suppose.
Huh? thanks for proving my point.
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It's also a perfect example of the Ron Paul demographic and how nutty he is on a bunch of topics.

He's the peanut in the turd.

I cant think of anyone better, who are you pitching for?
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I don't remember when IRAQ flew planes into buildings
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Pauls has SOME good ideas and I like some of his smaller government ideas, but he goes overboard all too often. He would need to be FAR more moderate for me to support him. He is off the charts on the defense and foreign policy issues. No question the two party system is a problem in this country, but so is the FACT we swing too far right or left. We are a moderate country and extremism either way is not good for this country.

That being said I have not made up my mind. I need to see MORE from all candidates and I wont make up my mind for a while. Look at what this media does to ANY Republican that rises to the top. Dont worry if Paul rises you will see the Media AND republicians take him apart. I would love to see Gingrich debate Obama. He pulls no punches, is insanely articulate and will absolutely destroy Obama in a debate. I will get some popcorn and beer out if that debate happens At this point it does not matter because Micky Mouse would be a better president than Obama.
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Oh how I love liberal responses they are so predictable and spoon fed from our wonderful media. The only kung-fu you have is the age old WMD debate? I love when 90% of Americans, and the Democratic Congress were on board for Afganistan and Iraq and then turn it around when things got difficult.

When we went in to Iraq for desert storm what did special forces do first? let me answer that for you: They blew up Iraq oil pipelines running into Syria. Hmmmm, what was that money doing? Another fact: Al-Qaeda was in Iraq: Remember the name Zarquawi ? He was the head of al-queda in Iraq. The US killed him.
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This video is about the Iraq war. Iraq had no WMDs, no presence of al Qaeda and was not a threat to us or it's neighbors (in 2003).

It was a complete bullshit war fabricated and fought by us for resources and strategic advantage in the region. Plain and simple.

Achtung, quality over quantity brother. You type a lot of gibberish but have little logic or substance in your words.

This topic has been discussed here countless times with no avail so I'll stop here.

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Dude we should invade Oklahoma. Some asshole blew up a building or something, so, let's like, do it.
Bring up any fact you want man, you're still gonna be wrong.
We went to war with Iraq, and will be in Syria next, because of our ties with Israel. Plain and simple. Why does al Qaeda hate America? Israel. Fundamental changes have to take place in our foreign policy.
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We went to war with Iraq, and will be in Syria next, because of our ties with Israel. Plain and simple. Why does al Qaeda hate America? Israel. Fundamental changes have to take place in our foreign policy.
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This video is about the Iraq war. Iraq had no WMDs, no presence of al Qaeda and was not a threat to us or it's neighbors (in 2003).

It was a complete bullshit war fabricated and fought by us for resources and strategic advantage in the region. Plain and simple.

Achtung, quality over quantity brother. You type a lot of gibberish but have little logic or substance in your words.

This topic has been discussed here countless times with no avail so I'll stop here.

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You post propaganda like this and have a leg to stand on? Still beating the WMD dead horse? Whats next Haliburton? Resources? Like all the free oil we got? Strategic advantage? Of course: Geographically, Iraq is key, is that even debatable? Convert Iraq to a peaceful Muslim democracy like Jordan and watch Iran and Syria, Afghanistan topple on their own.

Question for you: How many UN resolutions were put in place before we went in to Iraq?

How many UN resolutions were put in place before the US (Obama) and Europe went after Libya?

Hypocritical no?
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France and the rest of Europe went after Libya for their oil interests. Documented fact. Two different conflicts, can't compare them. The US became involved because of our unique military capabilities.
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To be clear - I think the video used a terrible example to make an obvious point and then hit me over the head with it a few times for good measure on the outside chance I didn't make it past 3rd grade but managed to figure out how to use a computer and surf my way over to their site.

My politics never had a chance to enter the equation. I was asked to "Imagine" the video...so I did.

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France and the rest of Europe went after Libya for their oil interests. Documented fact. Two different conflicts, can't compare them. The US became involved because of our unique military capabilities.

So why did they stop at Libya, and not invade 4 other oil producing countries?


So do you have the documet from Europe that is written in german that says they are stealing oil?
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This video is about the Iraq war. Iraq had no WMDs, no presence of al Qaeda and was not a threat to us or it's neighbors (in 2003).

It was a complete bullshit war fabricated and fought by us for resources and strategic advantage in the region. Plain and simple.

Achtung, quality over quantity brother. You type a lot of gibberish but have little logic or substance in your words.

This topic has been discussed here countless times with no avail so I'll stop here.

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Iraq broke the peace treaty several times by violating the flight zone, and no cooperation with the UN.



Did the US government forget to steal oil in the first war?
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. Why does al Qaeda hate America? Israel. Fundamental changes have to take place in our foreign policy.


Why does the KKK hate black people? Thats why we need to make national changes and murder all the black people.
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So why did they stop at Libya, and not invade 4 other oil producing countries?


So do you have the documet from Europe that is written in german that says they are stealing oil?
Things tend to get weird economically during civil wars. France gets the majority of their oil from Libya, germany, Italy, and the uk also import a good amount (something around 1/4 to 1/2).
No one is "stealing" oil dude. It's just these countries (specifically France) protecting their interests.
I can link some research I did on this topic if you want.
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Israel is unique in that the aid we supply is paid upfront every year regardless of their actions. They use banned weapons against Palestinians and yet we still send them money and military support. Ridiculous. Every argument made about the us involvement in the middle east has to be structured around Israeli thought. Joke all you want man.
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If my family was burned alive and the shell casings said "made in USA" I'd be pretty pissed too.
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Two different conflicts? How so? America invades an oil rich, Muslim country with a sketchy dictator that hates America and oppresses it's own people? Eventually the dictator is removed from power and killed.

Yeah you are right, no comparison. Except for the fact that the UN passed no fewer than 17 resolutions on Iraq, the Democratic controlled senate voted 77-23 to attack/fund Iraq as well.

Wake up and smell what you are shoveling.
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Things tend to get weird economically during civil wars. France gets the majority of their oil from Libya, germany, Italy, and the uk also import a good amount (something around 1/4 to 1/2).
No one is "stealing" oil dude. It's just these countries (specifically France) protecting their interests.
I can link some research I did on this topic if you want.

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So ghidaffi didn't want to sell oil and make money?
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