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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-29-2011, 10:04 PM Thread Starter
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Stop Online Piracy Act

If you haven't read up on this bullshit, please check it out. It could affect this board or any other social website or board you frequent. There is tons of news and information out there, but I think this article does a good job of summing things up

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/tom...ate,14393.html

The key quote to take away from it is as follows, and the same situation could play out here (admittedly not as likely)

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As an example, imagine a user posts a video clip to the Tom’s Community of a step-by-step guide on how to set up water cooling on an overclocked i7 CPU. Playing in the background behind the voiceover is “Derezzed” by Daft Punk. The studio representing Daft Punk could issue a complaint, without being required to notify us or request a take-down. Tom’s Hardware would be liable and prosecuted solely on a good faith assertion of the copyright owner, without notification, with the site operators subject to possible jail time for not preventing the video from being posted. In short order, the http://www.tomshardware.com/ domain in the United States would no longer resolve to our servers and visitors attempting to come to Tom’s Hardware would be redirected to a “This site under review for piracy/copyright violations” page.
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And this will kill networking jobs. Everyone will start buying servers in foreign countries where they don't give a fawk about copyright laws.

I'm sure Russia and China might say fawk against being anti human rights and setup servers and sell it to US customers.


I heard filesharing is getting looked at even more. The internet providers don't care, but they have to follow the law if they get complaints.
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wait till the awesomeness of the internet is stopped too.


no more being racist, saying funny shiet, telling someone to fawk off, and making a picture of odyssey looking ghey next to a motorcycle, wait, thats a real picture.
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I got an email from my hosting company stating their position against this just this week. I'm on board with them but I don't think too many in the government understand what they are doing and fear that this or some form of it will go through. Write your people before it's too late.

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And this will kill networking jobs. Everyone will start buying servers in foreign countries where they don't give a fawk about copyright laws.

I'm sure Russia and China might say fawk against being anti human rights and setup servers and sell it to US customers.


I heard filesharing is getting looked at even more. The internet providers don't care, but they have to follow the law if they get complaints.
Because they do it at the DNS level, they can take sites based in other countries too. There are ways around it, but the principle of it all is utter bullshit.
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so many people don't understand the repercussions of this if it passes.

GoDaddy was all for it until their customers told them what a dumbass they were and started xfering a whole bunch of domains away from them over their support for this legislation. They've since backpeddled and pulled their support away from SOPA.

http://tidbits.com/article/12692?rss

Most of the big names that created the Internet and other principle technologies are also trying to address Congress to stop this and it's not going well.

http://www.infosecisland.com/blogvie...gislation.html
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So this song I just played, it's from the '90's and it sums up this new act. Here is the last verse of it:

They'll tell you - don't do that
They'll try and tell you - it's for your own good
Big Mother is watching you
Mother's protecting you
Mommy knows what's right for you...
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom
The Bill of Rights just disappeared
There it is - whoops it's gone!
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom
All your rights just disappeared
Everybody stay calm.

Name the song and band haha

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So this song I just played, it's from the '90's and it sums up this new act. Here is the last verse of it:

They'll tell you - don't do that
They'll try and tell you - it's for your own good
Big Mother is watching you
Mother's protecting you
Mommy knows what's right for you...
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom
The Bill of Rights just disappeared
There it is - whoops it's gone!
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom
All your rights just disappeared
Everybody stay calm.

Name the song and band haha
Goodbye Freedom by Scatterbrain?

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Can I get an I told you so? welcome to typical democrat micro managing of your life.




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Some one explain to me in 3rd grade terms what all this means, please?

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it means people who vote for democrats, need to be told "I told you so"




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Some one explain to me in 3rd grade terms what all this means, please?
Basically if someone posts something thats copyrighted (or claimed to be) on a forum, youtube, facebook, etc then the web site would be shut down instead of just having it removed and the site owner/operator could face jail time. No warnings, no notices.

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tony is gonna be in biiiiiiiig trouble if this passes


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Bug there's an example in the very first post in this thread
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Anyone on here actually read the actual bill?
Here is the section about copyright infringement:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...bc8nnd:e63304:

SEC. 201. STREAMING OF COPYRIGHTED WORKS IN VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL LAW.

(a) Title 17 Amendments- Section 506(a) of title 17, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

`(a) Criminal Infringement-

`(1) IN GENERAL- Any person who willfully infringes a copyright shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, if the infringement was committed--

`(A) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain;

`(B) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, or by the public performance by means of digital transmission, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copyrighted works, when the total retail value of the copies or phonorecords, or of the public performances, is more than $1,000; or

`(C) by the distribution or public performance of a work being prepared for commercial dissemination, by making it available on a computer network accessible to members of the public, if such person knew or should have known that the work was intended for commercial dissemination.

`(2) EVIDENCE- For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction, distribution, or public performance of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement of a copyright.

`(3) DEFINITION- In this subsection, the term `work being prepared for commercial dissemination' means--

`(A) a computer program, a musical work, a motion picture or other audiovisual work, or a sound recording, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution or public performance--

`(i)(I) the copyright owner has a reasonable expectation of commercial distribution; and

`(II) the copies or phonorecords of the work have not been commercially distributed in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner; or

`(ii)(I) the copyright owner does not intend to offer copies of the work for commercial distribution but has a reasonable expectation of other forms of commercial dissemination of the work; and

`(II) the work has not been commercially disseminated to the public in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner;

`(B) a motion picture, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution or public performance, the motion picture--

`(i)(I) has been made available for viewing in a motion picture exhibition facility; and

`(II) has not been made available in copies for sale to the general public in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner in a format intended to permit viewing outside a motion picture exhibition facility; or

`(ii) had not been commercially disseminated to the public in the United States by or with the authorization of the copyright owner more than 24 hours before the unauthorized distribution or public performance.'.

(b) Title 18 Amendments- Section 2319 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) in subsection (b)(1), by striking `during any 180-day period' and all that follows and insert `of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, or of at least 10 public performances by means of digital transmission, of 1 or more copyrighted works, during any 180-day period, which have a total retail value of more than $2,500;';

(2) in subsection (c)--

(A) in paragraph (1), by striking `of 10 or more copies or phonorecords' and all that follows and inserting `including by electronic means, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, or of at least 10 public performances by means of digital transmission, of 1 or more copyrighted works, during any 180-day period, which have a total retail value of more than $2,500;'; and

(B) in paragraph (3), by striking `if the offense' and all that follows and inserting `in any other case;';

(3) in subsection (d)(4), by striking `under paragraph (2)' and inserting `committed for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain under subsection (a)';

(4) in subsection (f)--

(A) by amending paragraph (2) to read as follows:

`(2) the terms `reproduction', `distribution', and `public performance' refer to the exclusive rights of a copyright owner under paragraphs (1), (3), (4), and (6), respectively, of section 106 (relating to exclusive rights in copyrighted works), as limited by sections 107 through 122, of title 17; and';

(B) in paragraph (3), by striking `; and' and inserting a period; and

(C) by striking paragraph (4); and

(5) by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(g) Evidence of Total Retail Value- For purposes of this section and section 506(a) of title 17, total retail value may be shown by evidence of--

`(1) the total retail price that persons receiving the reproductions, distributions, or public performances constituting the offense would have paid to receive such reproductions, distributions, or public performances lawfully;

`(2) the total economic value of the reproductions, distributions, or public performances to the infringer or to the copyright owner, as shown by evidence of fee, advertising, or other revenue that was received by the person who commits the offense, or that the copyright owner would have been entitled to receive had such reproductions, distributions, or public performances been offered lawfully; or

`(3) the total fair market value of licenses to offer the type of reproductions, distributions, or public performances constituting the offense.'.

(c) Rule of Construction- Any person acting with a good faith reasonable basis in law to believe that the person's conduct is lawful shall not be considered to have acted willfully for purposes of the amendments made by this section. Such person includes, but is not limited to, a person engaged in conduct forming the basis of a bona fide commercial dispute over the scope of existence of a contract or license governing such conduct where such person has a reasonable basis in law to believe that such conduct is noninfringing. Nothing in this subsection shall affect the application or interpretation of the willfulness requirement in any other provision of civil or criminal law.
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Anyone on here actually read the actual bill?

Why the fuk would we do that?

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As long as their tits are bigger than their dicks, im in.

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it means people who vote for democrats, need to be told "I told you so"
It was introduced by a republican

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Lets cut to the chase...how does this effect my ability to download porn?
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Lets cut to the chase...how does this effect my ability to download porn?
Thec can block any website they want!

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Lets cut to the chase...how does this effect my ability to download porn?
Your going to have to pay for it, what kind of world would that be?
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Your going to have to pay for it, what kind of world would that be?
A sick, sick world.
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Haven't done the research to confirm this yet:

http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-...rse-than-sopa/

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But yet they dont put an effort to stop to spammers, scam artists and illegal telemarkerter calls.

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