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Keyless ignition

So I just found out that my key is not in the ignition ... and that's where I left it last time. So there is a chance that I won't find it. How do I convert it to a keyless start? And I need a keyless tank too.

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Pretty sure it would be cheaper to get a new key cut

(assuming that like cars, you can get a key cut using your VIN)
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but if this was a Craigslist add...I'd be so suspicious, lol.
Buy a keyless tank and new ignition? Pretty easy way to go about it I'd say...

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kot has a track bike he lost the key, wants to go keyless, its pretty normal to see keyless bikes at the track

I dont know hoe specifically todo it but the r6 i dont think it was a very difficult conversion, the tank will be the hardest thing

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as for the tank... use a screwdriver
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Use a switch and probably a relay that turns on a bunch of things. But this would make it very easy to steal
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I've got a gas cap from this company... a prettier one they don't make anymore but this one is kinda nice:

http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInf...AG%20Typ.01.1n
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Grab a factory service manual, get a good 30 amp 12v toggle switch and hook up the wires. Gas cap either get a aftermarket one like yoyodyne as JR said or a protek or vortex (get teh new version) or the like.


My SV is keyless and have a vortex cap (previous owner did it).

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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There was a guy on CL advertising he can make a key for any bike and he comes to you. Even if you dont have one he can copy.

I would try calling a few lock smith, some have made keys from me going off the switch.
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Can you just unbolt the current gas cap and swap it for a vortex or similar? I would think that's the easier of the two.

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There was a guy on CL advertising he can make a key for any bike and he comes to you. Even if you dont have one he can copy.

I would try calling a few lock smith, some have made keys from me going off the switch.
Great idea! Have some random dude from CL come over to the place where you store your bike and let him make a key for your bike. Sounds like sound advice.
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I removed the ignition from my trackbike, I wired into the kill switch so the kill switch turned the whole bike on or off, very simple, but on the kawi you need a resistor to simulate the ignition switch's anti theft system. Not a big deal and I'm sure you can find the info you need. For the cap, use a screw driver to pop it open, or what I did was a nice keyless gas cap. Never need to worry about forgetting the trackbike key again, or it getting broken off in a crash.

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Thanks, I still hope to find that stupid key.

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I removed the ignition from my trackbike, I wired into the kill switch so the kill switch turned the whole bike on or off, very simple, but on the kawi you need a resistor to simulate the ignition switch's anti theft system. Not a big deal and I'm sure you can find the info you need. For the cap, use a screw driver to pop it open, or what I did was a nice keyless gas cap. Never need to worry about forgetting the trackbike key again, or it getting broken off in a crash.
Same on my gixxer, but it's literally a 10 minute job on the K7 gixxers if you have the resistor. I got a few resistors left too. I don't remember but the ohmage is important. If you need resistors hit me up.
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I think you need to connect two wires or else you need to on put the gear push and start.
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A lot of people with "I thinks" and "you should" and "maybe if".

Maybe you should just hammer a screwdriver down the key switch mechanism.

On a serious note the right locksmith can make a key. Do some looking around. You might be surprised about the cost

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Same on my gixxer, but it's literally a 10 minute job on the K7 gixxers if you have the resistor. I got a few resistors left too. I don't remember but the ohmage is important. If you need resistors hit me up.
10 minute Job for who you? I'd like to have a stop watch going

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10 minute Job for who you? I'd like to have a stop watch going
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=45735

Maybe 30 minutes, either way it's not that hard if you follow the DIY.
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So I never found the key. The bike was at my friends garage and I'm pretty sure I left the key in the ignition. 2 days ago the alarm went off in the middle of the night in the car parked in front of the garage. Martin, my friend, went out but didn't see anyone. Yesterday the same thing happened but this time, after he turned on lights in the house he saw a guy running from his back yard (where the garage is) and crossed his front yard right in front of the window he was standing. He called cops but the guy was gone by the time they arrived. He lived there for 7 years and nothing ever happened. It is a quiet neighborhood of Arlington Height. I have no idea if that had anything to do with the missing key or not, but I moved the bike today to a secure location.

Now the interesting part.

I dropped off the bike at a local locksmith and after 2 hours i picked up the bike with two new keys for a total price of $85 !!!!

What they do is disassemble the tank lock that has 4 pins and input that data into a computer. It gives them 3 possible combinations for the ignition that has 6 pins. So if they are unlucky, they have to make 3 keys.
They can also drive to you, but then it's around $160

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by any chance did you have them change the pins? with someone snooping around and you missing a key, wouldnt have been a bad idea

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No, they did not take out the ignition. It's not that easy with an R6.

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