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Need a new rear tire...

Found a screw in it today and figured I'd ask for advice since this is the first time I'll be buying a tire after 15k miles on 2 bikes. I'm not looking for the best out there, just safe, reliable and something I won't have to replace after 5k miles.

Also, should I replace both tires or just the rear that's flat? Are there any good patches for it since it's an inch away from the middle and might be repairable (even though I'll probably just replace it and not trust a patch)? Lastly, where do I go in Chicago to do the work and what's the typical cost? I can probably take the wheel off and bring them the wheel/tire.

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Found a nail in my tire on Sunday night, ordered a tire through MC Superstore, got it Tuesday afternoon, pulled the wheel off, drove to user Stanimal on here in Glenview, he replaced the tire, I re-installed the wheel, 48 hours later, bike is good to go
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I have plug-patched a tire but I wouldn't recommend it. To do it, you have to remove the tire and install it from the inside, but at that point you might as well replace the tire.

I wouldn't recommend repairing it to be honest, theres about 1000 different tire options out there, check the date code on the front tire as well, and if its more than 4 years old, replace both
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After Gus replaced the engine on the snot rocket, we found a nail in the rear tire. Plugged it up and I rode on that for a couple years until I picked up a new front and rear and had stanimal replace them.

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After some research and asking around, I've narrowed it to the following:

1. Michelin Pilot Power 2CT
2. Continental Conti Road Attack
3. Continental Conti Sport Attack-Hypersport

Which of those 3 would be least aggressive and which would give me the best mileage highway cruising, using mainly center of the tire? I also heard to contis are a bit aggressive in that they can pull a bit when cruising in a straight line 30-50mph, any truth to that?

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If you plan on doing a lot of highway riding, check out the Michelin Pilot Road 3. I did some track days on the Michelin Pilot Road 2's as well.
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If you plan on doing a lot of highway riding, check out the Michelin Pilot Road 3. I did some track days on the Michelin Pilot Road 2's as well.
I just ordered the 2CTs. I normally go out for about 20-25 miles in the evening and that's 80% highway/straight line and 20% taking some curves but still at low speeds. Seems like the 2CTs are liked by just about everyone both on track and street, so I know they'll be good enough for me. I'm just hoping to get 6-8k out of them but we'll see.

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you might get that out of a front tire, not likely for a rear, but if the way your bike handles means anything to you you would replace them long before they totally wear out
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If you plan on doing a lot of highway riding, check out the Michelin Pilot Road 3. I did some track days on the Michelin Pilot Road 2's as well.
+1 on the pilot road 2
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There really isn't much of a difference between a regular PP and a PP2CT. Look at the chart on the Michelin site, its literally only the last 11% or so on the rear, and the front isn't much more that has the stickier compound

I've got an SV so I run the regular PP's as they last long enough, but the PR2/PR3 is definitely the best option for a sporty tire with some longevity
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I just ordered the 2CTs.
that second compound will never touch the ground lmao

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for your type of riding, sounds a lot like my type of riding, the Road is the way to go. I'm going to finally have to replace my road2 this summer. It will be somewhere north of 20K miles. I kind of quit counting.


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that second compound will never touch the ground lmao
True, but I'm sure it'll be a much better tire than my current Dunlop .

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for your type of riding, sounds a lot like my type of riding, the Road is the way to go. I'm going to finally have to replace my road2 this summer. It will be somewhere north of 20K miles. I kind of quit counting.

Yes on the rear.
That sound like a really good amount of mileage! So the compound is different between the Road2 and 2CT? Both say 2ct compound so if the road2 lasts that much longer than the 2ct, I'm assuming they're 4 different compounds on the tires?

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I have no idea what compounds exactly but I know 2 things.

the center on the pilot road is mug harder than on the power.

2ct doesn't mean anything about what compound, just that 2 different compounds are utilized in the tire.

We're you really thinking the road and the power were the same compounds? If so what then would be the difference in the tire? And how did you account for the drastic difference in the mileage reports for the tire?

Kinda confused by what you're saying.


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I have no idea what compounds exactly but I know 2 things.

the center on the pilot road is mug harder than on the power.

2ct doesn't mean anything about what compound, just that 2 different compounds are utilized in the tire.

We're you really thinking the road and the power were the same compounds? If so what then would be the difference in the tire? And how did you account for the drastic difference in the mileage reports for the tire?

Kinda confused by what you're saying.


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I wasn't really thinking anything about the compounds as I ordered the 2CTs based on recommendations and great reviews, without even looking into the durability of the Road2/3 tires. That's why when you said 20k and I keep hearing 4-8k tops from 2CTs, then they obviously have to be different compounds, thus my redundant question. Based on what you said and what I just briefly read online about the difference in mileage reported, I'll be calling to switch my order to the Road2 tires.

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Michelin makes it easy to compare their models. 2ct is very similar to the Pilot power, your mileage is correct, Road2/3 are sport-touring, mileage a little less that double probably

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even if you just fell off a turnip truck you cant go wrong with a new set of michelins, the pp2ct is a better tire for a R6, thats no touring bike comrade
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did they ditch the pure for the pp3? anyone know more about that?
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Michelin makes it easy to compare their models. 2ct is very similar to the Pilot power, your mileage is correct, Road2/3 are sport-touring, mileage a little less that double probably

That makes perfect sense, just wish they would clarify the compounds on a scale of 1-10 or something instead of by those colors. In any case, I'll definitely be getting the Road2 this time around as it sounds like it'll be a good improvement over the Dunlop (D208 I think) and perfect for my riding style.

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even if you just fell off a turnip truck you cant go wrong with a new set of michelins, the pp2ct is a better tire for a R6, thats no touring bike comrade
Maybe next set, but for my riding style I just want good mileage.

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D208s have not been made in many years, your 2009 bike should not be running such an old tire, it was obsolete long before your bike was made , the pilot road is a great tire , the 3 is much better in the rain, you should get a 120/70/17 for the front, most r6's come with the 120/60/17 for some reason, but from what i have learned that size sucks/too small ,most everything in the last 15 years come with 120/70
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D208s have not been made in many years, your 2009 bike should not be running such an old tire, it was obsolete long before your bike was made , the pilot road is a great tire , the 3 is much better in the rain, you should get a 120/70/17 for the front, most r6's come with the 120/60/17 for some reason, but from what i have learned that size sucks/too small ,most everything in the last 15 years come with 120/70
In all honesty, I only got that they're Dunlop D208s from here... http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photo...ha-YZF-R6S.htm

I didn't actually check the exact type of Dunlop on my bike (too lazy to get my ass up to the garage) but I did look up images of the D208 online and it does look exactly like my tires.

As for the sizes, my skill level is surely not above whatever the size is on the bike, so I have no reason to mess with that just yet. Maybe I'll learn quite a bit on these new tires and next time around have a better idea of what I want/need.

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Order/cancellation/order competed .

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Order/cancellation/order competed .

you need them mounted and balanced? when would want them done

get with me if you do. can work around you schedule.

did i mention, you can have your tires shipped to me to be ready to be mounted and balanced?

you wouldnt have to carry them down to me


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you need them mounted and balanced? when would want them done

get with me if you do. can work around you schedule.

did i mention, you can have your tires shipped to me to be ready to be mounted and balanced?

you wouldnt have to carry them down to me

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Thanks for the offer, but I've already made some plans so I'll keep this in mind if that falls through.

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Later to the game, but have gotten great performance and durability from pilots. Track and street. Hard to go wrong although I find they are very grippy up to a point the let go faster than some other options.

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Having used both the ppct2 and the PRct2 I found the ppct2 wear out really fast its not a good street tire. I got the PR ct2 and have 27k miles on them with ALOT of tread left. Im not easy on my tires either


Tho on a front PPct2 and the prct2 I did notice after riding on them for a bit they started to get bumps just off set of the center tread. Talked with STG and they couldnt figure it may has to do with me being hard on the front brakes of body position not holding with legs when braking hard and putting unnecessary weight and stress on the tires

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Having used both the ppct2 and the PRct2 I found the ppct2 wear out really fast its not a good street tire. I got the PR ct2 and have 27k miles on them with ALOT of tread left. Im not easy on my tires either


Tho on a front PPct2 and the prct2 I did notice after riding on them for a bit they started to get bumps just off set of the center tread. Talked with STG and they couldnt figure it may has to do with me being hard on the front brakes of body position not holding with legs when braking hard and putting unnecessary weight and stress on the tires
Well I'm definitely glad I asked then, as it sounds like I made a good decision with the Road2 over pp2ct. Looking forward to getting them on sometime next week. My next AVG horizon should be arriving roughly at the same time, can't wait to test it out!

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Having used both the ppct2 and the PRct2 I found the ppct2 wear out really fast its not a good street tire. I got the PR ct2 and have 27k miles on them with ALOT of tread left. Im not easy on my tires either


Tho on a front PPct2 and the prct2 I did notice after riding on them for a bit they started to get bumps just off set of the center tread. Talked with STG and they couldnt figure it may has to do with me being hard on the front brakes of body position not holding with legs when braking hard and putting unnecessary weight and stress on the tires
Yea I literally noticed the bumps too a few days ago. Found a nail in my rear and it was already 50-60% worn so I got a new tire. When thinking about getting the front, I felt it and it had bumps right off-center.

I also beat the hell out of my tires, I honestly don't know what causes those little bumps. Didn't inspect the rear that closely and I can't really feel the front vibrating when riding, so I'll change it in another month or so.

I ride an SV though so I'll get a good amount of mileage out of my regular Pilot Powers so I just keep running those. Hate to spend more money on a longer lasting tire and then pick up a nail like I tend to due halfway through its life.

Don't quote me on this but I think I get 8k rear, 11k front, with the regular PP on an SV650, maybe a hair more or less depending on the riding.

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Tho on a front PPct2 and the prct2 I did notice after riding on them for a bit they started to get bumps just off set of the center tread. Talked with STG and they couldnt figure it may has to do with me being hard on the front brakes of body position not holding with legs when braking hard and putting unnecessary weight and stress on the tires
its how they wear, not uncommon at all
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