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Talk Me Into (or out of) a DL650 VStrom

...have a line on an '07. Weighing the Vstrom and an FZ1.

Most of my riding had started to lean towards more touring and motocamping. ...had a Ulysses last and the comfort and convenience of an adv platform with hardbags is just so damn enticing.

I can always mount a motech alu-rack and hardbags to the FZ1, but the Vstrom is specifically designed for touring...decisions decisions.

On a budget...so newer Tigers/Teneres/etc are out at the moment.


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That's the plan...just need to pick one out!


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Get the bigger Strom at least - Bullet proof TL Motor I think....no?

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Yes. The old TL motor.

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Lots of guys that have ridden both say the 650 version is much more agile, lighter...more fun. So they say...

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Yes. The old TL motor.

Hi Ed.
Don't mistake by recommendation as an invitation to chat me up ya fucking Redneck..........

Saw your bike list in that other thread and cringed a bit at the old 125 thinking of Rocky Glenn

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Lots of guys that have ridden both say the 650 version is much more agile, lighter...more fun. So they say...
No idea Jethro - I just like the idea of 1000ccs

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Still in occasional therapy for that sh!t.

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No idea Jethro - I just like the idea of 1000ccs
Yeah I'm with ya...I had a 650, and wasn't super thrilled with the motor (Nick is going to kill me). Of course, the motor I had bared little resemblance to Nick's SVs.

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Still in therapy for that sh!t.
Fuck Bro......really ? - I had the 999 back then - That was 4 street bikes ago and a love affair with SM & MX.........

I hear ya man - I am easing back I to rehabbing the back myself - I still have a hard time watching the Outdoor Nationals or GPs and not just driving to MCC and spending too much coin on a KTM 350sxf

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Yeah I'm with ya...I had a 650, and wasn't super thrilled with the motor (Nick is going to kill me). Of course, the motor I had bared little resemblance to Nick's SVs.
That SV with the MX bars was the shit Bro - I loved that bike

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Fuck Bro......really ? - I had the 999 back then - That was 4 street bikes ago and a love affair with SM & MX.........

I hear ya man - I am easing back I to rehabbing the back myself - I still have a hard time watching the Outdoor Nationals or GPs and not just driving to MCC and spending too much coin on a KTM 350sxf
Yeah, just started back up again this year to try and get more range of motion. I've had four street bikes since then myself

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That SV with the MX bars was the shit Bro - I loved that bike
Ha yeah man, the kid I sold that bike to got a screaming deal and a really nice motorcycle. I let him use my canyon dancer to take it back to College. He mailed it back first thing...good kid. Heck, now that I think about it I did that for two buyers!

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If you are spending any real time on gravel / dirt I think the 650 the better choice.

You ruled out the Triumph 800xc which I think is best in class.


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If you are spending any real time on gravel / dirt I think the 650 the better choice

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Problem is that most say they just want to sport tour, get the bigger motor then end up wrestling that pig thru sand, mud, gravel and dirt. I agree with Tom, the 650 is the better choice. Plus as you well know the real fun is making a small bike go fast Anyone can get on a 1000 cc and twist, takes talent to make a 650 perform.

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Kawi Versys maybe? Not an off-roader but you listed the FZ1 so am guessing that off-road is not top priority. Love it or hate it looks but I have not heard anything but good things about the actual bike itself. Paul had one ages ago and loved it.

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yeah i'm with ya...i had a 650, and wasn't super thrilled with the motor (nick is going to kill me). Of course, the motor i had bared little resemblance to nick's svs.
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Kawi Versys maybe? Not an off-roader but you listed the FZ1 so am guessing that off-road is not top priority. Love it or hate it looks but I have not heard anything but good things about the actual bike itself. Paul had one ages ago and loved it.
Rented a Versys last weekend for some Norcal fun. Have to say that it's a nice vippy bike, but the ergos aren't anywhere as comfortable for a 6 footer compared to my Strom.

The 650 has plenty of power for the street. It's not a race-built motor, but for its intended purpose, its fine. There are guys who swap cams and get 6-8 more horses out of the motor if you really want a bit more. Lots of guys change gearing, upgrade shock, etc. for an extra performance edge. But the bike stock is fine for road riding. The weight savings and more nimble handling over the DL1K make the 650 a better choice IMO.

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There was a jumping ban implemented in 2007.

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If you are spending any real time on gravel / dirt I think the 650 the better choice.

You ruled out the Triumph 800xc which I think is best in class.


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Problem is that most say they just want to sport tour, get the bigger motor then end up wrestling that pig thru sand, mud, gravel and dirt. I agree with Tom, the 650 is the better choice. Plus as you well know the real fun is making a small bike go fast Anyone can get on a 1000 cc and twist, takes talent to make a 650 perform.
There are countless threads debating the topic, but the bottom line is I've found very few people that have the 650 mentioning anything negative about it...lots of guys with the 1000 have said if they were to do it all over again they may go with the 650. That says a lot I think.

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Kawi Versys maybe? Not an off-roader but you listed the FZ1 so am guessing that off-road is not top priority. Love it or hate it looks but I have not heard anything but good things about the actual bike itself. Paul had one ages ago and loved it.
Looked a little at the Versys...it's just too darn goofy looking. As oddball as the Vstrom is, I actually kind of like it! Not so with the Kawi for whatever reason.

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Rented a Versys last weekend for some Norcal fun. Have to say that it's a nice vippy bike, but the ergos aren't anywhere as comfortable for a 6 footer compared to my Strom.

The 650 has plenty of power for the street. It's not a race-built motor, but for its intended purpose, its fine. There are guys who swap cams and get 6-8 more horses out of the motor if you really want a bit more. Lots of guys change gearing, upgrade shock, etc. for an extra performance edge. But the bike stock is fine for road riding. The weight savings and more nimble handling over the DL1K make the 650 a better choice IMO.
6' over here, and ergos are right near the top of the priority list.

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I worked on the Vstrom 1K and really liked the bike....upgraded the suspension and the thing was awesome. However, yes it was heavy.

I'm in the same boat looking for a bike and deciding what I want without spending a bunch of money. I'm going to have to check into 650 route....forgot all about that. I haven't actually sat on or ridden the 650 but I agree....I'll take the lighter weight and nimbleness over some extra power you don't really need anyway.

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ridden both/ like both / owned neither , but ride a sv1K , I like the 1K motor a lot, for highway use/touring I would go 1K , we sold a new 650 to a euro kid who took the adventure part seriously , it was trashed cosmetically in short order, like really bad, but held up mechanically as good as could be expected, the DL is no dirtbike
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