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2 bikes, 1 pickup, no chalks- do-able?

Well, the title pretty much says it all. I plan to rent a pickup from Enterprise(most likely a 2013 F-150) and haul a CBR and a ZX6 to Deals Gap in a couple weeks. Being a rental, bolting chocks is not an option. I'll be using either soft straps or Canyon Dancers for the bars, and cam tie downs for the rears. The part I cant visualize is a what to use for a tie down point for the inside, or center of the bed. I did a search on it, but the only solutions I come across either require bolt on shit(again, not an option in my case), or are so poorly described, I cant for the life of me picture it.

So without damaging either bike, what do you think, do-able? If this is too risky, my only other option is a trailer(which I may have lined up), but then I have to track down a vehicle with a hitch. Putting one on mine is not an option.
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On a piece of plywood screw two 2x4's and center in the bed keep the plywood snug side to side and the 2x4 also

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I have run a strap from one bed corner to a bike tripleclamp, then a strap from triple to triple (tieing the two bikes together), the the triple of the second bike the the other side of the bed. It worked but was quite shaky. If I were going to attempt that again, I would want more than three straps. bore like 6-8 straps.

a trailer with tie down points would be best for that long of a drive.

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On a piece of plywood screw two 2x4's and center in the bed keep the plywood snug side to side and the 2x4 also
Pretty smart actually. Only problem is Enterprise cant tell me make/model of truck for sure till the day I pick it up. Most likely will be an F150, but from what I understand, there's 3 different 2013 sizes.


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I have run a strap from one bed corner to a bike tripleclamp, then a strap from triple to triple (tieing the two bikes together), the the triple of the second bike the the other side of the bed. It worked but was quite shaky. If I were going to attempt that again, I would want more than three straps. bore like 6-8 straps.
I was sort of thinking this same thing. Trust me though, I wont be sparing expenses when it comes to the tie-downs.

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Care to extrapolate?

Also, I've never hauled a bike before, so any and all tips is well appreciated.
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Why don't you just ride them there?
I'll just as soon try my luck at trailering 2 bikes at the same time before riding 2 bikes at the same time.

If it were just me and just one bike, no question. As it is, I'm giving my brother who lives in Georgia one of 'em. We'll then ride from there to the Gap. My wife(who's sister is married to my brother)is going with, so its also a family get together.

So any other tips(cam tie-downs vs ratchet, tie-down points on the bikes/truck, etc)?
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3 dirtbikes will fit in a truck easily.
2 sportbikes shouldn't be too hard
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use good quality cam type, ratchets are for ATVs and lawn tractors ( cue the ratchet lovin knuckle draggers to attack) , any cheap tie down could slip

any modern truck will have tie down hooks in the corners

get the canyon dancer handlebar harness to make life easier

use the rear peg brackets to tie down the rear of the bike and take some load off the front

is your ramp up to the task? back the truck up to a curb or something so the tailgate is closer to the ground to load/unload , sportbikes will high-center where the ramp meets the tailgate

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All very good advice, thanks. So in the case of 2 bikes, tie 'em togethor on the inside, right? I found a pretty good deal on a set of decent cam tie downs and canyon dancers at Cycle Gear. Also found an aluminum double-wide 6' ramp with safety chains rated for 1200lbs at Harbor Freight.

I found a multi-level parking lot a couple miles from the house seperated by a 4ft hill with a walkway. Plan is to back the bike up at the bottom of the stairs and load the bikes from above. The ramp will be pretty close to level, if not a slight downward slope
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how much do you care about the bodywork?

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What Gus said.

But couldn't you mount the chocks on 2x4 thats just wide enough to be stable, then Ratchet down the webbing tight as usual...

Let us know how you decide to do it... Good info for the future

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1 sheet of 4x8' 3/4"ply. 2x4 screwed to the front of it with 2 eye bolts in the middle (make sure to use LARGE washers to prevent pull outs). Place in truck. Put bike 1 on one side, then strap one side to trucks bed tie down (most trucks have them in the corners), then other to eye bolt in 2x4. Put other bike in and repeat. Back straps can criss cross usually and not interfere with the other bike. No real need for chocks but you can mount chocks to the plywood also. weight of the bikes will hold the ply down.


BTW its CHOCK, not chalk. Chalk is for writing on pavement or slate boards.

Another option is to use the rental truck, one bike in the bed, one on a trailer if the trailer isnt big enough for 2 comfortably.

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6ft ramp sounds a little short. But, I'm used to my 4x4 Ram.
Rent a trailer with the truck. I hook up my trailer, then put my ramp from the trailer to the bed of the truck. Makes loading/unloading easy. Plus, bikes that go to the gap don't always come back undamaged... Much easier to carry a bike on to a trailer than lift one into the back of a truck

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I put 2 sport bikes in the back of an Avalanche before. 1 in front wheel forward, the other backed in. Tied them both up independently. 1 strap around the triple/steering stem and 1 to each of the pass. peg area of the frame. 6 straps in total.

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6ft ramp sounds a little short. But, I'm used to my 4x4 Ram.
Rent a trailer with the truck. I hook up my trailer, then put my ramp from the trailer to the bed of the truck. Makes loading/unloading easy. Plus, bikes that go to the gap don't always come back undamaged... Much easier to carry a bike on to a trailer than lift one into the back of a truck
If times permits, I'll definitely give this some thought.

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I put 2 sport bikes in the back of an Avalanche before. 1 in front wheel forward, the other backed in. Tied them both up independently. 1 strap around the triple/steering stem and 1 to each of the pass. peg area of the frame. 6 straps in total.
1 forward/1 backward for lack of bed width? Its nice to know others have done this. I'm thinking roughly the same idea, except with the inside tiedowns passing through the other bikes spokes to the tiedown points on the opposite side of the bed. I'll be using 12 tiedowns, 8 softstraps, and 2 canyon dancers. I'm imagining- 1st bike in, sidestand down, 2nd bike in. Mount canyon dancer to 2nd bike, running the inside tiedown through the 1st bikes spokes. Sidestand up on 1st bike, mount canyon dancer and route inside tiedown same as 2nd bike. Bikes are secured, mount all additional tiedowns/softstraps at my leisure.

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6ft ramp sounds a little short.
From the ground to the bed, wayy too short. I'll be loading the bikes on the top level of a 4ft walkway dividing adjacent parking lots . Backing the truck up to the bottom stair, I figure the tailgate will on be maybe 4ft away(if that) from the loading point. The ramp will be pretty damn level, maybe even have a slight downward slope.

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BTW its CHOCK, not chalk. Chalk is for writing on pavement or slate boards.
LOL, you know, I actually thought it the right way, but subconsciously spelled it wrong. Kinda like brake and break, I guess.
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1 forward/1 backward for lack of bed width?
Yes. The sides of the avalanches are boxes/coolers so the bed is only as wide as the inner wheel wells. Chicagoperformance thought I was nuts. I am.


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From the ground to the bed, wayy too short. I'll be loading the bikes on the top level of a 4ft walkway dividing adjacent parking lots . Backing the truck up to the bottom stair, I figure the tailgate will on be maybe 4ft away(if that) from the loading point. The ramp will be pretty damn level, maybe even have a slight downward slope.
What about on the unloading end of the trip? Will you have this same provision?


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Its Georgia, i'm sure I can find a hill somewhere.
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Alright, Got back from Georgia 2am yesterday morning. My brother and I had an absolute blast! We rode pretty much everyday I was there. Hit up mostly twisty country roads just south of Macon(Houston county)the first couple days, then took a roadtrip to Columbia South Carolina to visit my wife and her sisters family. Spent the remainder of the trip riding, drinking beer, riding, drinking beer, etc. Friggin heaven.

Loading and hauling went off without a hitch. Thanks to the generosity of Costco, loading was literally a one man job-



Although I planned everything in detail, I somehow shorted myself two tie downs. Didnt realize it till both bikes were on the truck so I had to get creative-



The CBR's rear is held down with the Kawi's front strap. All tie downs on the opposite end pass through/under the bodywork of the opposing bike. I could only do this by loading on forward, the other backward-



White-knuckle driving all the way there, especially going through the mountains. I stared at this pretty much the whole 14hrs there-



Sooo much easier with just the one bike coming back!



All and all, I'm pretty pround of myself.
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I'll just as soon try my luck at trailering 2 bikes at the same time before riding 2 bikes at the same time.

If it were just me and just one bike, no question. As it is, I'm giving my brother who lives in Georgia one of 'em. We'll then ride from there to the Gap. My wife(who's sister is married to my brother)is going with, so its also a family get together.

So any other tips(cam tie-downs vs ratchet, tie-down points on the bikes/truck, etc)?
just hire a bunch on mezzicans from home depot to ride in the back and hold the bikes up

No equipment needed then

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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just hire a bunch on mezzicans from home depot to ride in the back and hold the bikes up

No equipment needed then
Believe it or not, I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately I already exhausted my trip funds on hookers, blow, and tie-downs. Next time I'll prioritize a little better.
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