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Final Accounting for 2009 Charity Calendar

Hello All,

As mentioned in a previous thread, the 2009 IMS marked the end of the Charity Calendar campaign.

I have to say that it's absolutely incredible how everyone came together and went far above and beyond the call of duty to make this a reality. To everyone who made this happen, and you know you who are, you should be extremely proud of your accomplishments.

With that said, for all who are interested, here is the final accounting for the 2009 Charity Calendar campaign.

Total Sales, from all venues: $1849.27 (not including Online)
Total Online Sales: $374.64
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Total Overall Sales: $2,223.91

Total expeditures: -$300 (paid by check to IRS for 501(c)(3) election)

Total remaining Funds: $1,923.91
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Total private, non-reimbursed Contributions:
Cost for Incorporation as a Non-Profit in IL = $850
Cost for 7' Banner for IMS = $105
Cost for Business Cards = $35
Cost for Calendar Manufacturing = $2150
Cost for Miscellaneous expenses = $181
Cost for Moto-Angels Dog Tags = $25
Cost to prove everyone wrong who said this couldn't be done = priceless

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Hello All,

As mentioned in a previous thread, the 2009 IMS marked the end of the Charity Calendar campaign.

I have to say that it's absolutely incredible how everyone came together and went far above and beyond the call of duty to make this a reality. To everyone who made this happen, and you know you who are, you should be extremely proud of your accomplishments.

With that said, for all who are interested, here is the final accounting for the 2009 Charity Calendar campaign.

Total Sales, from all venues: $1849.27 (not including Online)
Total Online Sales: $374.64
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Total Overall Sales: $2,223.91

Total expeditures: -$300 (paid by check to IRS for 501(c)(3) election)

Total remaining Funds: $1,923.91
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Total private, non-reimbursed Contributions:
Cost for Incorporation as a Non-Profit in IL = $850
Cost for 7' Banner for IMS = $105
Cost for Business Cards = $35
Cost for Calendar Manufacturing = $2150
Cost for Miscellaneous expenses = $181
Cost for Moto-Angels Dog Tags = $25
Cost to prove everyone wrong who said this couldn't be done = priceless
so wait, let me get this straight... you spent more in private contributions than actual funds for the charity? Yeah, ya proved everyone alright
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Well apparently the math here isn't obvious, so I'll break it down

The Charity has received $5,569.91 in contributions... $2,223.91 of which came from the calendar itself. The expenses listed, which were provided here to account for the other contributions beyond the calendar sales, are denoted here so that it is clear that NO monies from the sales of the calendar went to anything other than it was intended for... to be available to help the families of fallen riders.

BWA, wydaje sie ze ktoszik robi matymatyki po Polsku

And what it proved, which again, surprisingly for some reason doesn't appear to be obvious to some, is that it was accomplished, in light of all who said it would never happen. That's all, nothing more. And many thanks to all who made it happen.

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Well apparently the math here isn't obvious, so I'll break it down

The Charity has received $5,569.91 in contributions... $2,223.91 of which came from the calendar itself. The expenses listed, which were provided here to account for the other contributions beyond the calendar sales, are denoted here so that it is clear that NO monies from the sales of the calendar went to anything other than it was intended for... to be available to help the families of fallen riders.

BWA, wydaje sie ze ktoszik robi matymatyki po Polsku

And what it proved, which again, surprisingly for some reason doesn't appear to be obvious to some, is that it was accomplished, in light of all who said it would never happen. That's all, nothing more. And many thanks to all who made it happen.
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The did not understand what "non-reimbursed Contributions:" meant

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Ah ha! I see your point, thanks arch! I'm sick (flu)... and what little sleep I'm running on right now with my 4 week old, is sporadic at best and not usually longer than 2 hour long naps. Thank you for pointing that out...

I'm out... back to the couch, and to changing my sons diapers every 30 minutes (so it seems)...

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Ah ha! I see your point, thanks arch! I'm sick (flu)... and what little sleep I'm running on right now with my 4 week old, is sporadic at best and not usually longer than 2 hour long naps. Thank you for pointing that out...

I'm out... back to the couch, and to changing my sons diapers every 30 minutes (so it seems)...
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Well apparently the math here isn't obvious, so I'll break it down

The Charity has received $5,569.91 in contributions... $2,223.91 of which came from the calendar itself. The expenses listed, which were provided here to account for the other contributions beyond the calendar sales, are denoted here so that it is clear that NO monies from the sales of the calendar went to anything other than it was intended for... to be available to help the families of fallen riders.

BWA, wydaje sie ze ktoszik robi matymatyki po Polsku

And what it proved, which again, surprisingly for some reason doesn't appear to be obvious to some, is that it was accomplished, in light of all who said it would never happen. That's all, nothing more. And many thanks to all who made it happen.
I might be Polish, but my point is still valid

You spent more of the contributions on making and marketing the calendar, than actual charity's purpose.
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I might be Polish, but my point is still valid

You spent more of the contributions on making and marketing the calendar, than actual charity's purpose.
Those 'dollar values' are listed, but they are not paid back out of the sales... they are basically 'donations' of money/time/materials, not 'costs'/'payables'

So, that money was not 'spent' by the fund... they were asset/services 'receivables' via 'donation'.

I'm about to re-do a similar thing for a fundraiser... get a guy to yet again donate over a grand worth of food for the 4th year in a row... which we don't have to pay back via our ticket sales...so the money brought in goes entirely to the purpose... not to paying for 'costs'.

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I did n't catch the $5,569 # in the first post .I missed some math (that could be my job)please dont tell any one at work.

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Those 'dollar values' are listed, but they are not paid back out of the sales... they are basically 'donations' of money/time/materials, not 'costs'/'payables'

So, that money was not 'spent' by the fund... they were asset/services 'receivables' via 'donation'.

I'm about to re-do a similar thing for a fundraiser... get a guy to yet again donate over a grand worth of food for the 4th year in a row... which we don't have to pay back via our ticket sales...so the money brought in goes entirely to the purpose... not to paying for 'costs'.

If you don't 'get it' that's fine.. but don't embarrass yourself either by attempting to slam on a good deed.

What, IRS donated $850 for incorporating the charity as non-profit? I don't think so. I realize that's not money earned thru the calendars, but money donated for the operational costs. But, that's almost half of charities funds, that was donated to "running" it. Which could've gone to the actual problem. This is why I'm against most charities. What's $1,923.91 gonna do? Certainly doesn't even cover funeral costs for one dead rider.

But kudos on having fun setting it up.
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What, IRS donated $850 for incorporating the charity as non-profit? I don't think so. I realize that's not money earned thru the calendars, but money donated for the operational costs. But, that's almost half of charities funds, that was donated to "running" it. Which could've gone to the actual problem. This is why I'm against most charities. What's $1,923.91 gonna do? Certainly doesn't even cover funeral costs for one dead rider.

But kudos on having fun setting it up.
I'm sorry, I missed the part where you did those things for free or at a lower cost.

Which part was your money?

Further, how could that money go towards the 'charity' if there is not one existing in the first place? What do you think the $850 actually did?

While 1923.91 doesn't cover a funeral expense in full, it's 1923.91 that can go to help defray such costs, or put food on the table for a family for a number of months, etc...

Some people just like to bitch for the sake of bitching, even though they really have nothing to bitch about...

How many calendars did you buy? Better yet, how much cold cash did you DONATE?

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I'm sorry, I missed the part where you did those things for free or at a lower cost.

Which part was your money?

Further, how could that money go towards the 'charity' if there is not one existing in the first place? What do you think the $850 actually did?
That's the thing. This was more about making the calendars than helping. None of it was my money, I'd rather have all my money go to someone in actual need. How could it go to charity? How about you ask yourself how could that money go to the ones that need it? You don't need a charity to help out. We've done plenty of donations, without established charity, that went to a purpose. But there was no cool photoshoots that went along with it

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None, that has what to do with me speaking my mind on a public forum?

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This has been a great experience and after IMS I am truly proud to be a part of the Moto-Angels. The response from varying groups, organizations, riders, etc was amazing! The networking alone was phenominal. I have a really good feeling about the future of Moto-Angels.

As for griping and bastardizing... give it a rest. It's not all about the money. There were several of us who gave out of our own pockets not to mention alot of time and effort to make this happen but not with an assbackwards motivation of receiving accolades.

The cause is what it is and isn't all about funding someone's funeral, but beyond....

Money isn't the only assistance people need. In talking to MANY fallen riders at the show... It's kindness and human assistance which I personally will do anything I can to assist in if needed.

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I sure as hell have.. Davenport, IA... Have you ever directly given a family 5 figures to give them a fresh start in life? The one who is on the soap box is you when others are stepping up to the plate to help in ways they can and want to.

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Well I'm glad it went so well tim.

I didn't get the chance to bring this up to you this sat, but my parents own a print shop. Between something we can help out with, along with our connections, I'm sure the next calender print can have he costs possably dropped down further.

Me and my Lil bro both ride, and we have people we know hurt from riding. So keep this in mind for the next one.

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post #29 of 46 (permalink) Old 02-11-2009, 10:40 PM
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BWA your really sounding petty here. espcially when you were the recipient of a charity collection from this forum
No... He's just calling it as he sees it..
Just nobody else has the balls to do it...

I agree it is all for a good cause.. but what he said was true..

Every person, myself included.. Who thought they were helping were actually taking money away from the charity.. as the calendars cost more to produce than they were selling for...

It was "sponsored" but the sponsorship would have done more good to the charity if it wasn't supported calendar sales and paying for the overhead of the charity..


for example...

If I had 2 million dollars.. and I took it and made 1 million $ in custom CLSB Gixxer fairings to sell for charity... The fairings cost me 500$ per set.. but I sold them for 450$... WOuld I have been better off buying and selling all of those fairings? or just giving the 2 million $ to... ronald mcdonald house?

any way you look at it.. It's an awesome thing that was done.. and altho I had no use for a calendar.. I bought one.. Just to support the cause..

but as long as the calendars cost more to make then they are selling for.. and require outside donation to support.. Then the charity part doesn't make financial sense to me... Just my .02.. I don't know who donated the money for the calendars..
Damn good on them though.
I feel like I hurt more than I helped

I hope that thunder can help.. and lower the printing costs.. If that is the case... AWESOME!
I don't want to belittle the effort here at all.. I am just saying.. the numbers.. as I read them.. and I assume BWA and others read them.. Just don't add up properly.

In any case.
Thank you for doing what you did. I recently lost a friend as many on here know... and things like this can really make a big difference in peoples lives.
I wish the charity the best.. and perhaps we can find some other ways to bring some money in.. bar/restaurant nights.. bike night things.. I don't know.. I'd love to see it grow.. I hope by my saying this you don't take it as my not supporting it.. I am just pointing out an issue that I feel should be fixed if possible.. (and if they costs cant come down.. raise the price a tad.. lets just make sure the charity product is not a loss leader)

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you know i made a few attempts to explain start up of a business, deferred cost, how most of this all works and no matter how i do it.
the separation of "odysseys" the admin of this site, just a member of this site, and also 1 of the acting founders of this charitable organization . its just to hard for some of you to understand and a complete waste of time because of the responses from my own community.

so ill leave it at this. thank you all that stood for the charity and helped our efforts as we all share the same concern. helping other riders in dire time of need.

this is my last post in reference to negativity.

to the future and those that helped it along the way, to start a legit corporation in proper standings that will allow so much more action and attention to our concerns then just a end user i thank you all from the bottom of my heart.



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