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help me decide

ok, off topic and prolly the most discussed and debated thing ever but here we go.

Do I want an LCD tv or a Plasma?

Specs on the room

It is 15 feet by 14 feet. We will wall mount the tv and sit approx 9-11 feet from the screen.

There is a large window behind the couch but we have full curtains that kill most of the sunlight.


I have a $1,600 budget.


I want to get the largest TV for the room that will look good and not be TOO big for the room if that is possible.

I also have direct tv with HD so I'm debating between getting a 120hz 46 inch LCD LG tv that is 1080

or getting a 52 or 55 inch plasma LG that is 600hz and 1080 dpi.

Help me decide. I have no idea and want to suprise the wife.



I know about the so called burn in with plasma, but just about every plasma I have read has features to prevent that now as well as the glare problems?

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can you explain your reasoning? just so I know and understand :-) THanks
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2nd vote for Panny plasma.

Better black more accurate brightness and burn in is a thing of the past. Lots of size for little money.
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how are they in a somewhat bright room? I'm not saying its got alot of sunlight, but in the daytime I do not need any lights on to see perfectly. I'm worried about glare.
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I'm not in on the technical crap but I had a 42" Dell Plasma made by I forget who and only lasted 1 1/2yrs before issues.

Now I have a 52" Sony LCD 2 yrs old and 37" 6 months old Toshiba LCD. Both in bright rooms and no issues.

LCD is alot lighter then a Plasma. The 42" plasma weighs more then my 52" LCD.

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My parents bought an lcd, and we bought a plasma. Everytime my mom comes over she says, "wow that's a nice picture". She now wishes she had listened and bought the plasma. It's a better picture, even with the front curtains open and outdoor light being let in.

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so, dumb question, but why are plasmas cheaper than LCD's if they are that much better? Please educate me so I know what to buy. Thanks guys.
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If you're going to be watching a lot of movies, get the plasma, if you're going to use it for gaming get the LED. If you go with the LED get the samsung 8500 series or later, as it will be backlit vs edgelit technology. I have a backlit LED and I love it, awesome picture for gaming. For plasma get your hands on a Pioneer elite if you cant go with the V10

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I cant afford LED I'm debating between LCD and plasma
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no one recommeds LG tv's?
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I thought a lot of brands discontinued their plasma lines?
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I think we bought an entry level panasonic plasma (TS-50PS14) from Best Buy after the new year. Paid $979 including delivery. Bought the wall mount and all cables from monoprice.com. PS3 came later. We love it. I have directv and have to call to get a new box and dish for hidef. I cannot say enough good things about it. We mainly watch tv, some movies and gaming (wii).
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LCD's are brighter...... but have motion issues for sports or racing.



Plasma's have better blacks......and remain clear during motion.


I have a 50" Plasma...... love it.



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a little off topic here, but why are plasmas being discontinued if they offer a better picture for movies and tv (which is what most people are going to use them for)

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I would like to know that as well? And why are LCD's more expensive if Plasma tv's give a better picture?
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a little off topic here, but why are plasmas being discontinued if they offer a better picture for movies and tv (which is what most people are going to use them for)
Because the profit margins are higher on LCD and for the most part they've successfully brainwashed the public into thinking they're better. The only bonus to LCD over plasma is weight, power consumption, and maybe heat but I'd have to double check that these days.

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do a search on this topic, we've discussed this extensively. numerous threads!!!

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Plasma, I love mine.

The other claim is that LCD last longer than Plasma. Who cares? Whatever you buy, you will be replacing before the MTBF anyway.

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The other claim is that LCD last longer than Plasma. Who cares? Whatever you buy, you will be replacing before the MTBF anyway.
This was true about 6 years ago, since then lifespans have been the same for both formats.

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well can anyone recommend me a plasma for a somewhat ambiant lit room with anti-glare screen any size up to $1,400 or an LCD that has a damn good contast ratio of 150,000:1 and 240hz or better for under $1,400?


I'm finding it freaking hard to comapare all of these different models with so many different features.
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasoni...asma&cp=1&lp=5

I would also check if they still have the tv we bought. It was comperable to the tv we bought, and with the savings in money you can buy a bluray, cables, and wall mount. Our tv was in limited supply, (300 or so) so it was removed from the website. You have to call and find out if it is still avaliable.
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well can anyone recommend me a plasma for a somewhat ambiant lit room with anti-glare screen any size up to $1,400 or an LCD that has a damn good contast ratio of 150,000:1 and 240hz or better for under $1,400?


I'm finding it freaking hard to comapare all of these different models with so many different features.
Contrast ratio is nearly useless spec, especially dynamic contrast. Sony's new stuff this year claims an "infinity" contrast ration, FFS.

If you can't afford LED, you probably can't afford a 240hz TV either. Those mofos are expensive as shit, and the benefit it pretty minimal.

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As far as what you're looking for, Panasonic 50" S2 model. MSRP $1300.

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The big drawback to the plasmas are their energy consumption. Places like California are actually banning most plasma sales because they often don't make the Energy Star certifications.

"No discussion of TV power use would be complete without a bit of perspective. For households that pay somewhere near the average retail cost for energy--11.36 cents per kilowatt per hour in 2008--and that watch near the average amount per TV--about 5.2 hours per day--the cost to watch a 50-inch 1080p plasma TV is about $63 per year in the calibrated light output mode (see How We Test). A typical 52-inch LCD TV costs about $27 per year for the same light output, and of course, smaller TVs use less energy." - http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-power-efficiency/

Also there's the burnout issue that you often get with plasmas if you continuously watch the same programming.

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The big drawback to the plasmas are their energy consumption. Places like California are actually banning most plasma sales because they often don't make the Energy Star certifications.

"No discussion of TV power use would be complete without a bit of perspective. For households that pay somewhere near the average retail cost for energy--11.36 cents per kilowatt per hour in 2008--and that watch near the average amount per TV--about 5.2 hours per day--the cost to watch a 50-inch 1080p plasma TV is about $63 per year in the calibrated light output mode (see How We Test). A typical 52-inch LCD TV costs about $27 per year for the same light output, and of course, smaller TVs use less energy." - http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-power-efficiency/

Also there's the burnout issue that you often get with plasmas if you continuously watch the same programming.
Burn in, not burn out.
And it's completely overblown nonsense peddled by commission based sales guys trying to sell you higher margin shit.

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So basically, unless you're seriously obsessed with a particular image that you'd stare at it for weeks at a time, or only watch 2.35:1 movies (in which case who cares if the burn is uneven in the unused pixels?), you can skip worrying about burn-in and enjoy your plasma. If you want more on the science of all of this, check out Gary's full story. [HD Guru]
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Early plasma panels required high energy levels to drive the phosphors sufficiently hard to produce light, causing relatively fast phosphor wear. By comparison, todays panels use far less energy to produce far higher light levels and far less phosphor wear. So much less wear that average panel life is now 100,000 hours (defined by the industry as being when the panel outputs half its original brightness).
The burn in thing is old info that just won't die.

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The burn in thing is old info that just won't die.
I stand corrected on the burn in

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I stand corrected on the burn in
It's a common thing, not everyone is a big freakin' nerd that keeps up with this stuff.

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