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Some Historical Tidbits

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Here are some facts from the 1500's:


WHERE DID PISS POOR COME FROM?

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & sold to the tannery..... ..if you had to do this to survive you were "piss poor". But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to piss in" & were the lowest of the low....

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell .. .. . brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.

This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold. (Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old.

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust. Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus,someone could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.

And that's the truth.....Now, whoever said History was boring !

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http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/wagon.asp

piss poor is wrong, I stopped there when I realized the rest of the post would contain nonsense junk received via email.

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Most of it is up for interpretation. The roots of the majority of phrases are debated. The dead ringer part at the end is absolutely true. Shit they did that here in the colonial days.

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i wonder if this is true too. i heard that TIPS, as in the stuff we leave for the waiters/waitresses at restaurants, etc, stood for 'Too Insure Proper Service.'
and originally, the money was placed in the mddle of the table when the customer was seated. then little by little, if the waiter did something wrong, or right, money was added or taken away.

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...Money is referred to as "bucks" from colonial times when deer skin was traded and utilized as cash.

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...Money is referred to as "bucks" from colonial times when deer skin was traded and utilized as cash.
"bucks" is referred to a 'scratch' from older times when the deer skin that was traded and utilzed as cash wasn't washed and there were still fleas on it.

i made that up.

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I stopped there when I realized the rest of the post would contain nonsense junk received via email.
1500's is wrong. I stopped there when I realized the writer of the article did not understand how to use an apostrophe correctly.

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^^ Idiots.

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I like watching the three stooges and notice a lot of phrases they used back in the day.

like coffee="Java" back den
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People still call coffee "java" all the time. You're a dope, get back under your bridge.

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People still call coffee "java" all the time. You're a dope, get back under your bridge.
you mean its not a programming language?


I know its used today. I just find it interesting it was used since the three stooges.


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i wonder if this is true too. i heard that TIPS, as in the stuff we leave for the waiters/waitresses at restaurants, etc, stood for 'Too Insure Proper Service.'
and originally, the money was placed in the mddle of the table when the customer was seated. then little by little, if the waiter did something wrong, or right, money was added or taken away.

Ensure, not insure. Unless you're an insurance agent, why would you want to insure service?

That would make it TEPS though, and ruin the almost-homophone error.

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1500's is wrong. I stopped there when I realized the writer of the article did not understand how to use an apostrophe correctly.
You'd stop reading most of this forum if you stopped reading after an apostrophe misuse.

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Re: Some Historical Tidbits

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You'd stop reading most of this forum if you stopped reading after an apostrophe misuse.

...or the misuse of "then" and "than". Tough crowd today

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...or the misuse of "then" and "than". Tough crowd today
Chronic mis-users of those two simple words go on my ignore list. I won't name names.
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A good read... http://www.amazon.com/Heavens-Betsy-.../dp/0060513314

This isn't the one I have, but it's the same title... looks like they probably made it worse with this printing... but still worth learning the history...

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Ensure, not insure. Unless you're an insurance agent, why would you want to insure service?

That would make it TEPS though, and ruin the almost-homophone error.



You'd stop reading most of this forum if you stopped reading after an apostrophe misuse.
You must see a lot quieter of a forum than I do.

Oh wait, let me translate:

U must see allot quiter forum then I do to.

aut cum scuto aut in scuto

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Neato! (my bday is 8/28, Arch )

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You must see a lot quieter of a forum than I do.

Oh wait, let me translate:

U must see allot quiter forum then I do to.
he probably , mean prolly does :P

zero, you're right... then leaving a tep would sound kinda ghey

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you ever heard someone say "don't look a gift horse in the mouth"? Back in the day motherfuckers would give horses as a gift and since old ass fucking horses had receding gum lines that made they teefs look all long and shit, it was a way of telling if the motherfucker was old or young. In other words, it don't make no damn sense to complain about something being not fly when it was free.

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you ever heard someone say "don't look a gift horse in the mouth"? Back in the day motherfuckers would give horses as a gift and since old ass fucking horses had receding gum lines that made they teefs look all long and shit, it was a way of telling if the motherfucker was old or young. In other words, it don't make no damn sense to complain about something being not fly when it was free.
man shut the fuck up

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...or the misuse of "then" and "than". Tough crowd today
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