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So ... I definitely can't catch a freaking break.

This past Monday I parked in a motorcycle parking area next to my University's Chemistry building and after I had left to go inside for classes, the began to clean the side of the brick building with a Class 8 Hazard, brick detergent. That was a Level 3 risk. It contained Hydrochloric acid and other corrosive chemicals.

After a lot of legwork I spoke with the University and with the Contractors. The Contractors are now going to be paying for the damages.

Today I filed a Police Report to make sure that it was on record somewhere. Additionally, on monday I took it to a body shop to take pictures of it, so there was another professional witness to what happened to the bike.

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It mostly only got on the right side and the top. I know that any unfinished or powdercoated metal got damaged a bit. And the paint and seats definitely got hit, but don't really look bad now, after I cleaned them. The frameslider definitely got hit and shows some damage. The seats don't look that bad in the pictures because I cleaned them off before I rode.


They were freaking spraying when I was standing there and they claimed it wasn't normally a problem because they "Diluted" it.

Would you just replace the obvious parts or would you lay into them? Especially if you had just detailed your bike before you rode it to class ... and it only had 370 miles on it when this happened.
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it's totaled, I'll give you $37 for it.

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it's totaled, I'll give you $37 for it.
Yeah I don't know about that. They are offering to pay for parts and repairs. For $37 I'll sell ya the reflectors though, or for 15 dollars more - a stock exhaust.
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One of my buddies had his vet covered in white paint specs because they were painting the water tower at the high school he was parked at. Most of the people in the lot were able to get their cars buffed and the paint removed, but he had his top off, and the interior was covered. I think he got around 10k to replace most of the interior.

I'd bitch and complain and make them fix everything.

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Fuck that, it's an 09'. I would make them pay for everything!


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Fuck that, it's an 09'. I would make them pay for everything!


Black is nice when it's clean but it's a bitch to keep it that way!
+1 I'd suggest they buy you all new fairings. Then you can keep those for track.

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New set of fairings and then sell them on ebay.

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I would have them pay for everything hence totaling it out. No way I am paying for a bike that has been ruined. If not I will be sueing.
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Has the acid etched through the clearcoat? It hasn't been that hot for the sun to have baked it on there. Find someone that knows what they're doing and have them buff it out with a light compound. All might not be lost yet.


Still make them replace all the plastics and then ebay them for your troubles.

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Also make sure the forks and other exposed metal has not been compromised.

I'd go for the totalled determination.

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I'm not sure what Iowa's buy back laws are, but in Illinois your vehicle needs to be 9 years or older to buy it back from the insurance company if it is totaled. With those laws, I would sure as hell hope they wouldn't total it out because used value for your a bike with 370 miles is quite a bit lower than a new bike with 0.
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So ... I definitely can't catch a freaking break.

This past Monday I parked in a motorcycle parking area next to my University's Chemistry building and after I had left to go inside for classes, the began to clean the side of the brick building with a Class 8 Hazard, brick detergent. That was a Level 3 risk. It contained Hydrochloric acid and other corrosive chemicals.

After a lot of legwork I spoke with the University and with the Contractors. The Contractors are now going to be paying for the damages.

Today I filed a Police Report to make sure that it was on record somewhere. Additionally, on monday I took it to a body shop to take pictures of it, so there was another professional witness to what happened to the bike.

It mostly only got on the right side and the top. I know that any unfinished or powdercoated metal got damaged a bit. And the paint and seats definitely got hit, but don't really look bad now, after I cleaned them. The frameslider definitely got hit and shows some damage. The seats don't look that bad in the pictures because I cleaned them off before I rode.

They were freaking spraying when I was standing there and they claimed it wasn't normally a problem because they "Diluted" it.

Would you just replace the obvious parts or would you lay into them? Especially if you had just detailed your bike before you rode it to class ... and it only had 370 miles on it when this happened.

I'd totally lay into them. Just because they diluted it doesn't mean it won't etch paint. It's their responsibility to make sure that the area surrounding them is safe before using products like that, and that includes vehicles. Did they happen to get any other cars, or just your bike?

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Make them pay the big $$$ then trade me the destroyed 675 for my awesome SV650. I lapped a few 675's this weekend with my SV. True story.
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Make them pay the big $$$ then trade me the destroyed 675 for my awesome SV650. I lapped a few 675's this weekend with my SV. True story.
This is true, he lapped me at Autobahn and probably giggled maniacally in his helmet. Dave, I told ya to buy that Track Daytona with the monster green wheels... I'll go halvsies with you, it's only $4500! You know you miss the sound of a triple under your ass...

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This is true, he lapped me at Autobahn and probably giggled maniacally in his helmet. Dave, I told ya to buy that Track Daytona with the monster green wheels... I'll go halvsies with you, it's only $4500! You know you miss the sound of a triple under your ass...
Jeez you people are bad. I plan to keep the SV this year and the next. Hopefully the 675's will be even better in price by then. Hmmm, halfsies? What side do I get to crash?
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This is true, he lapped me at Autobahn and probably giggled maniacally in his helmet. Dave, I told ya to buy that Track Daytona with the monster green wheels... I'll go halvsies with you, it's only $4500! You know you miss the sound of a triple under your ass...
believe me he still hears the rumble of a motorcycle from his ass.

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believe me he still hears the rumble of a motorcycle from his ass.
hahahahaha nice

seriously, jr, hope everything gets settled on your bike. that totally sucks. especially on a black bike.

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It's just a Triumph. Let's not get crazy.
I like Triumphs, but I still laughed out loud.

Oh yeah, definitely sucks about your bike. Sorry to hear, and hope everything gets resolved easily/quickly/to your satisfaction.
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I'm going Friday or Saturday to get a quote on all the parts that had acid on them.... which seems like 3/4 of the parts on the freaking bike. And to get an estimate for labor hours. I'm going to then bring the construction company the estimate for parts & labor and see what they decide to do. Initially they had planned to pay out of pocket, but we'll see what happens when they get the invoice.


I talked with a guy who used to do auto-bodywork that now works at a nearby BMW motorcycle dealer and he thinks he could detail it completely to prevent any acid from eroding the paint. I'm torn as to what I should do if given the money. But peace of mind goes a long way. So I'll probably replace everything.

As far as totaling goes. The bike is registered in Illinois, and I'm an Illinois Citizen ... so I hope they don't try and total it.

I'm not sure how that would work b/c they are a Masonry Company, and I don't think that their insurance really deals with many motorcycles. And I would also have to consent to "writing off" the motorcycle, right? I know the process for totaling a bike fairly well ... I don't really want to have a second one on my record so soon.

I wish I could just pocket the cash and have everything be okay with the bike, but I don't think that is really an option, seeing what has developed on the metal parts in the two days since the pictures were taken.

I'll be sure to keep ya updated with what happens ...
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Jeez you people are bad. I plan to keep the SV this year and the next. Hopefully the 675's will be even better in price by then. Hmmm, halfsies? What side do I get to crash?
um... whichever one I don't fuck up first, duh.

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This is just an opinion in regards to taking the money and not fixing the bike.

There maybe be a record of it following the bike (what's that used car check thing)

I've been paid a few times in situations just like this and bad Carma always follows that money for me.


I guess what I'm trying to say is fix the bike.Don't try to capitalize on it.

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This is just an opinion in regards to taking the money and not fixing the bike.

There maybe be a record of it following the bike (what's that used car check thing)

I've been paid a few times in situations just like this and bad Carma always follows that money for me.


I guess what I'm trying to say is fix the bike.Don't try to capitalize on it.
Thats what I was thinking... I'm a firm believer in Karma (Even though I consider myself Lutheran, not Missouri synod) So should I then keep the parts as spares if I decide to track it, or should I sell them?
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I would think if they give you cash pay some one to fix it best they can and make some of your payments with the rest.

That's gotta keep the karma gods happy.

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I would think if they give you cash pay some one to fix it best they can and make some of your payments with the rest.

That's gotta keep the karma gods happy.
And perhaps replace the levers that is damaged with pazzo levers ... and the rearsets that are damaged with woodcraft gp-shift ones ... and the exhaust with an arrow slip-on.

What do you guys think about the wheels though? They have obvious "Stains" from the acid etching them ... should they be replaced from a safety standpoint?
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Safety no.

I've seen them smashed and still rolling.

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I'd approach them with the intent on letting a good detailer have a go at it, then progress from there. With the understanding you'll work with them to find an economical solution to all issues, within reason.

Hydrochloric acid on the metal bits is going to trash them over time. I'd bet your forks tubes are going to be history. Keep a very close eye on out for rusting or etching deposits, that could cause failures.

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My 675 rolled fine after my crash. They take a hell of a beating. And go for Sato rearsets. The woodcraft are nice, but Sato are that much better.
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