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1080P VS 720P - Finally did a PIC comparo

Yeah, 1080 is 1.5X the resolution, but was it worth the extra price? With the pricing of 720 now-a-days, I'm thinking I can get a BIG ASS TV for $700 bones.


Can you tell which side is the 720P side?

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and i can totally tell on my 1080 tv, when the broadcast is in 720 or lower.
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right side is 720 for sure. very noticeable.

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While there is a difference, a lot of braodcasts are still not in full 1080p. It really depends on what you are doing.

PS3 and Blueray often-Get 1080p

Just HD TV like me-720p. Not a single person has said, man that looks only like 720p. Its a 50" LG plasma.
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720 vs 1080 is a good size difference and noticeable. However 1080i vs 1080P on a TV is super hard to tell a difference. As for TV's I still say save the extra cash and buy a 720 set that can display 1080i. The 720 designation on most sets relates to what the tuner can put out, the panel can go to 1080i. 99.9% of people with a HD TV never use the over the air tuner and use cable or satellite to do the tuning.

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So thanks for the input guys.......but here's my question

Should I get the 50" 720P for under $800 OR

46" 1080p for just a tick over $900?
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So thanks for the input guys.......but here's my question

Should I get the 50" 720P for under $800 OR

46" 1080p for just a tick over $900?
50" plasma 720P over any LCD. Even the best LED or LCD is still chasing plasma for refresh rates and contrast. Just make sure the 720p plasma says that it is capable of displaying 1080i when fed through the hdmi port.
Never had a Samsung but here is one for under $600 w/free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036WT3V6/...m&linkCode=as1

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50" plasma 720P over any LCD. Even the best LED or LCD is still chasing plasma for refresh rates and contrast. Just make sure the 720p plasma says that it is capable of displaying 1080i when fed through the hdmi port.
Never had a Samsung but here is one for under $600 w/free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036WT3V6/...m&linkCode=as1
most 720p displays today can accept a 1080p signal, they've always accepted a 1080i signal. At 50" or less you might as well just get a 720p set unless the price is the same. You wont notice the difference at 10' away.

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50" plasma 720P over any LCD. Even the best LED or LCD is still chasing plasma for refresh rates and contrast. Just make sure the 720p plasma says that it is capable of displaying 1080i when fed through the hdmi port.
Never had a Samsung but here is one for under $600 w/free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036WT3V6/...m&linkCode=as1
haha have you seen the seller? its ABT in glenview I can just pick it up today lol
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haha have you seen the seller? its ABT in glenview I can just pick it up today lol
Nice, didn't even notice that. What ever you purchase buy with your AMEX if you have one. Automatically doubles the manufactures warranty for no extra costs. No reason to buy the store warranty.

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when you buy at abt you should haggle!!

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50" plasma 720P over any LCD. Even the best LED or LCD is still chasing plasma for refresh rates and contrast. Just make sure the 720p plasma says that it is capable of displaying 1080i when fed through the hdmi port.
Never had a Samsung but here is one for under $600 w/free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036WT3V6/...m&linkCode=as1
The LCDs are definitely catching up though.

Just get 1080p and be done w/ it :P
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So thanks for the input guys.......but here's my question

Should I get the 50" 720P for under $800 OR

46" 1080p for just a tick over $900?
What is your measured viewing distance?

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I always thought it had to do more with the size of your viewing screen. The larger the screen the more pixels you will need in order too attain a sharp image. A large screen with less pixels. The pixels will need to be larger in order to fill the same area. Thus, giving you a less then perfect image.

However, screen sizes 50in and under 720p is fine. There is some rule as to viewing distance vs. screen size… That also plays into image quality.

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and i can totally tell on my 1080 tv, when the broadcast is in 720 or lower.
Unless you're watching a bluray, its always 720 or lower. Just sayin.

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Unless you're watching a bluray, its always 720 or lower. Just sayin.
Or using it as a computer monitor...

Yes, NTSC DVD quality is 720x486/480 anyway.

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channel 5 in chicago broadcasts in 1080i. granted all the shows arent in 1080, but....

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channel 5 in chicago broadcasts in 1080i. granted all the shows arent in 1080, but....

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1080i ≠ 1080p

1080i is in some ways worse than 720P. Only 540 lines each frame, and your TV just makes up the other 540. Video quality depends entirely on how well your set de-interlaces. Most reasonably priced TVs just double the lines, giving you effectively a 540P TV. Looks like shit when watching sports compared to 720P which gives a true 720 lines each frame. Technically speaking, 1080i is lower still resolution than 720p.

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1080i is not 540p. The resolution of 1080i and 1080p is the same, how it's rendered is different. When displayed in it's native interlaced format 1080i depends on the human eye to put together the two 540 line frames to create the 1080 image, modern digital sets rely on deinterlacing to create the image. Some sets are better at this that others.

Deinterlaced 1080i is effectively 1080p, however because the image has to be built by the deinterlacer there can be quality loss coupled with the fact that most 1080p content(referring primarily to bluray and ignoring VOD or pc signals) is at much higher bitrate than any 1080i broadcast leads to the misconception that 1080p is a dramatically better format.

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1080i is not 540p. The resolution of 1080i and 1080p is the same, how it's rendered is different. When displayed in it's native interlaced format 1080i depends on the human eye to put together the two 540 line frames to create the 1080 image, modern digital sets rely on deinterlacing to create the image. Some sets are better at this that others.
this. there's clearly a difference for the better between ch5's broadcasts, and ch7's which are in 720.
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this. there's clearly a difference for the better between ch5's broadcasts, and ch7's which are in 720.
This means that the deinterlacer in your set does a much better job than the scaler needed to convert the 720p image to it's native 1080p panel resolution. Not uncommon. Watch sports and both and you might change your tune, fast motion images are better broadcast in progressive format.

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So thanks for the input guys.......but here's my question

Should I get the 50" 720P for under $800 OR

46" 1080p for just a tick over $900?
50" plasma. You are never going to have them side by side in your home to compare.
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Just remember that even tho you most of the time wont get a full 1080p picture right now, were not far away from it so you would be futurizing your tv getting the 1080p.

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1080i ≠ 1080p

1080i is in some ways worse than 720P. Only 540 lines each frame, and your TV just makes up the other 540. Video quality depends entirely on how well your set de-interlaces. Most reasonably priced TVs just double the lines, giving you effectively a 540P TV. Looks like shit when watching sports compared to 720P which gives a true 720 lines each frame. Technically speaking, 1080i is lower still resolution than 720p.
Not even close... but vcook has it covered.

1080i essentially equals 1080p... from what I've read the only time there is a possibility in noticing a difference is when there is fast movement on screen.
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$800 is still a good price for a 720P 50" plasma? I got that price almost a year ago ($875 OTD for a panny X1). Very happy with my purchase so I would say go with the 720P Plasma.

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