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Metra chief commits suicide. By train.

Suprised this wasn't already posted; happened just this morning not far from my 'burbs home.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...-by-train.html

"Metra officials have been told that Pagano's wallet was found on his body, along with a copy of Metra's procedures on how to handle a service disruption after a suicide, a source said."

At least he brought instructions with him. But should have ate a gun instead as now the train engineer and the people aboard have to deal with that event.

On Thursday, the Cook County state's attorney's office said it had launched a criminal probe into possible financial irregularities by Pagano, who had been executive director since 1990.

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phew, not my line.

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I get email alerts from the McHenry Co Sheriff Dept and got this one today. Related??

Advisory Message has been issued by the McHenry County, IL Sheriff's Office.

Friday May 7, 2010 11:11 AM CDT

Sheriff’s Office Investigating Metra Train Incident May 7, 2010 10:00 A.M.

Sheriff Keith Nygren announced today that the McHenry County Sheriff’s Office is conducting a death investigation in regard to a pedestrian versus Metra train incident. The Sheriff’s Office learned of the incident that occurred 2/10 of a mile west of Terra Cotta Road on Hillside Road at approximately 8:09 A.M. today. Information will be released to the media as it becomes available. Release of the victim’s identity will be done after next of kin is notified. A media staging area has been established at Hillside Road and Fox Creek Drive in Crystal Lake. The McHenry County Sheriff’s Office is planning a press conference, time and location to be announced. Keith Nygren, Sheriff


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Wowsers. I dealt with him indirectly for a number of years on one of my major projects.

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Yep, same one. Union Pacific line in Crystal Lake.

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I like how he had the paper work on him on how to deal with a train suicide, helping out the folks that would find his corpse.

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Guess so. First thing I thought of when reading 'financial irregularities' was this:

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I like how he had the paper work on him on how to deal with a train suicide, helping out the folks that would find his corpse.
yeah thats REALLY creepy
sad but creepy

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sad but creepy
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But still inconsiderate to even do it in the first place. One, to family/friends, and two, toward everyone involved and affected by his choice of action.

That's got to be a shitty way to go as well. Probably the same as jumping off a building. Instant internal-organ-soufflé.

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do you suppose the guy driving the train was looking him in the eye when he hit him? so unfair

isnt this the same guy that just admitted its been years since he's ridden a Metra train??

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They tell you when you become an engineer it's not if you hit someone but when.
Yep. I have hit pieces of someone (fresh hit, don't ask) and hit a car (no injuries). Meh, whatever. The engineer gets 3 days of pay for sitting home. I guess they were investigating about 69k, and the dude make 270k a year. Cheap railroaders. I see guys make 150k a year and steal a 6 pack of water. True story.
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I was in the second car of an el train that had someone commit suicide in front of it
we didn't hit him - stopped about 20' short of hitting him - but I still got to watch them peel him off the rails with a 2x4
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Hmm,

$270K / year and 11 weeks vacation. Maybe I should apply for that job. I could take the summer off and roam from track to track in a big toyhauler......

Sad that he's dead, but it's pretty crappy to off yourself like that. It's not fair to the engineer.

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It's not uncommon for railroaders to die by train. My father-in-law ran over a RR cop when he was a conductor. And every boss in the world is at work today. I wonder why? Ugh.
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do you suppose the guy driving the train was looking him in the eye when he hit him? so unfair
one of my conductor buddies on the train heading home told me that the suicide committers always look up at the engineer just before impact. one guy even had the sack to throw up a double middle finger to the train just before he got wiped out.

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It's common for suicides to use commuter trains. They have a schedule. And I don't understand how they look at the engineer. The person killing themselves would have to look at a minimum of 3 bright lights having a minimum of 400,000 candlewatt of power. And most people have no idea where an engineer is at. I have been on the ground in this situation, and I could t see shit. I read the reports and most people lie down on the rail. One guy ran head first into one. A funny one was I had a coal train comin around a curve at 20 mph. A woman jumped from behind a box and laid down on the north track. I was on the south track And we have a saying. No thump, no dump (dump meaning using the emergency brakes).
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I dunno, maybe they're just looking up to brace for impact. I agree, the lights are bright and the train has to be a good distance away to see the engineer up top depending on which end of the train is about to hit.

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