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7 y/o killed during police raid

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videob...9-e99d4dc63070

RIP. They did get the murder suspect they were looking for in the house, but at too high of a cost.
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RIP. They did get the murder suspect they were looking for in the house, but at too high of a cost.
Kill a kid to get a 'suspect' that could still get off through the system of justice.

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Reminds me of when the swat team shot the dogs in the drug raid last week.

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Reminds me of when the swat team shot the dogs in the drug raid last week.
Pissed off the animal rights people, but which group is stepping forward for the kid?

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according the reports the shot went off when a woman fought with the incoming officers. sounds like it was her own fault.
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according the reports the shot went off when a woman fought with the incoming officers. sounds like it was her own fault.
+1 but it still doesn't change the minds of some

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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according the reports the shot went off when a woman fought with the incoming officers. sounds like it was her own fault.
Blaming the 7 yr old? Why didn't they shoot the woman who was 'fighting'.

Shitty shot. Send the asshole back to the range and suspend him in the meantime.

Someone bursts into the room you are in and a kid is in there... in a split second you don't think a parental instinct might take over to 'protect' the kids from the intruders, if even for a moment?

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Blaming the 7 yr old? Why didn't they shoot the woman who was 'fighting'.

Shitty shot. Send the asshole back to the range and suspend him in the meantime.

Someone bursts into the room you are in and a kid is in there... in a split second you don't think a parental instinct might take over to 'protect' the kids from the intruders, if even for a moment?
i don't think he's blaming the 7yr old. he's blaming the mom. the raid was at 1am. mYbe the kid should have been in her room.

maybe the lady was fighting with the cop and went for his gun and it went off in the scuffle.

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Serving a warrant for a killing resulting in the killing of a child. No matter how you slice it, someone on the PoPo end of things fucked up unless mom got the gun away and shot her own kid... which isn't what it sounds like happened. Guns go off when the trigger is depressed. Whose finger was it?

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Serving a warrant for a killing resulting in the killing of a child. No matter how you slice it, someone on the PoPo end of things fucked up unless mom got the gun away and shot her own kid... which isn't what it sounds like happened. Guns go off when the trigger is depressed. Whose finger was it?
I disagree. The police didn't kick in a door to a day care and start shooting. They went into arrest a murder suspect @ 1am and the officer was attacked. If that is how it went down it is the womans fault. I find it hard to defend anyone in this instance.
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i blame the family for harboring a killer. Then fighting with the cops. Then letting their kids sleep on a couch instead of a bed.
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...Guns go off when the trigger is depressed. Whose finger was it?
i'm sure we'll find out.

but can't always let the parents off scott free. its definitely a pisser that the girl was shot. but the family housing a known felon, come on. right?

the first thing you see when someone gets shot is the parents blaming the police. instead of blaming the police, why don't they take responsibility for their own kids and not put them in harms way?

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i'm sure we'll find out.

but can't always let the parents off scott free. its definitely a pisser that the girl was shot. but the family housing a known felon, come on. right?

the first thing you see when someone gets shot is the parents blaming the police. instead of blaming the police, why don't they take responsibility for their own kids and not put them in harms way?
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i blame the family for harboring a killer. Then fighting with the cops. Then letting their kids sleep on a couch instead of a bed.
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go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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It was the girl's GRANDMOTHER... and was this 'felon' a fugitive or a 'suspect' ?

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Ut oh...

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"Geoffrey Fieger, a lawyer for Aiyana’s family, said he’s seen videotape of the incident and claims it shows the gunshot was fired from outside the house, not inside as police have described. Godbee would not comment on Fieger’s allegations."

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so they did a raid outside?
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dude now that doesn't make sense....

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dude now that doesn't make sense....
A little girl getting shot by police serving a warrant doesn't either.

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this happening in Detroit makes it even more harder to comprehend.
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your honor, i'd like to respectfully request a recess until i can get home and review the video with a beer.

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Hope they release the video so we can find out what happened.
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Hope they release the video so we can find out what happened.
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articles say that there were video cameras there because they've been filming the detectives for episodes of 'the first 48' reality show. but they're not sure what impact that had on the police actions.

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This attorney is making some pretty bold and solid accusations. Video tape doesn't lie and I hope they release it so as to get to the bottom of what fucked up once and for all....




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(CNN) -- An attorney representing the family of a 7-year-old girl shot to death Sunday in a police raid is accusing the Detroit Police Department of misrepresenting the incident.

In an interview with CNN affiliate WDIV on Monday, Michigan attorney Geoffrey Fieger said he obtained video footage of the incident captured by a crew filming for the A&E network show, "The First 48."

Fieger, who didn't say how he received the tape, said it shows officers rushing the home and throwing a flash grenade through a window before one officer fires into the home from the front porch.

However, according to Assistant Police Chief Ralph Godbee, preliminary information indicates that members of the Detroit Police Special Response Team approached the house and announced themselves as police. Godbee cited the officers involved and at least one independent witness.

Godbee said officers used a "flash bang" device, entered the home and encountered a 46-year-old female inside the front room.

"Exactly what happened next is a matter still under investigation, but it appears the officer and the woman had some level of physical contact," Godbee said in a statement Sunday. "At about this time, the officer's weapon discharged one round which, tragically, struck 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley Jones in the neck/head area."

Police were executing a search warrant in the search for the suspect in a shooting Friday that killed a high school student.

Godbee said the 34-year-old suspect was found and arrested at the home where the girl was shot. In addition, a vehicle and a moped matching the descriptions of those involved in the shooting of 17-year-old Jarean Blake were also found, he said.

Fieger called the explanation from police "entirely false."

"Of course, I have seen the videotape and the videotape vividly portrays the fact that a percussion grenade device was thrown through the front window and a shot was fired immediately from the outside from the porch," he said.

"No murder suspect was found in Aiyana's house," Fieger said in Monday's interview. "In fact, there's an upstairs apartment next door which the police did not have a search warrant for and that is where he surrendered, they went into that house too. But he was not in Aiyana's house."

Aiyana's father, Charles Jones, also has denied that the suspect was in his home.

Detroit police spokesman Phillip Cook told reporters Monday that he was not aware of the video and declined to comment. The investigation, he said, has been taken over by state police to preserve the "community's trust."

A source at A&E, who asked not to be identified citing company policy, confirmed that a crew was on the scene and that the footage was confiscated by police. He would not comment on what the crew had captured on video.

Another police spokesman said the department would not identify the suspect in Blake's shooting death until he has been formally charged by prosecutors. The suspect remains in custody.

Godbee, in his statement Sunday, said he wished to "express to the family of Aiyana Jones the profound sorrow that we feel within the Detroit Police Department and throughout this community. We know that no words can do anything to take away the pain you are feeling at this time."

Police obtained the "high-risk search warrant" based on intelligence, and it was approved by the prosecutor and a magistrate, Godbee said. "Because of the ruthless and violent nature of the suspect in this case, it was determined that it would be in the best interest of public safety to execute the search warrant as soon as possible and detain the suspect ... while we sought a murder warrant."

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Yea this is what the lawyer is saying:
From: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz0oOzOBRdc

At a press conference Tuesday, defense attorney Geoffrey Fieger, who is representing Aiyana's family, offered this narrative: The flash grenade was thrown through the plate-glass window of the home's living room, apparently landing on Aiyana, who was sleeping with her grandmother on a sofa. Almost simultaneously, he said, a shot was fired into the house. The grandmother, Mertilla Jones, said Tuesday that as soon as the grenade shattered the window, she leaped to the floor. "I wanted to reach my granddaughter," Jones said, sobbing loudly. "I seen the light leave out her eyes, and I knew she was dead. She had blood coming out her mouth. Lord Jesus," Jones continued, "I ain't never seen nothing like that ... You can't trust Detroit police." Police officers, Fieger said, then rushed through the front door, which was unlocked.

Apparently the video tape from the A&E crew was confiscated by police after the raid.. gg!
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Apparently the video tape from the A&E crew was confiscated by police after the raid.. gg!
If that's true, nothing will ever come of this. There will be rioting for sure.
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That sucks for everyone involved, including the officer I'm sure he/she is very upset as well.

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