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The Guy Who Flew Thousands of Passengers As a Fake Pilot

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This is Thomas Salme, a maintenance engineer who became a Boeing 737 pilot by flying a few nights in a flight simulator and printing a fake airliner pilot license. Amazingly enough, he flew passengers for thirteen years without any incidents.

Thirteen years of back and forth from Sweden to everywhere else in Europe. Nobody noticed until a couple of months ago, when Salme was caught by the police as he was getting ready for take off. He was in the cockpit of a Boeing 737, with 101 passengers at Amsterdam's Schipol airport. He admits that it was all a crazy idea:

I got the crackpot idea to apply as a co-pilot at a real airline so I made myself a Swedish flying permit with a logo out of regular white paper. It wasn't laminated, and looked like something I'd made at home. It was surprisingly easy. The documents look different everywhere in Europe. An Italian airline doesn't know what a Swedish licence looks like. And you can forge all the IDs you need. I'd train there for two or three hours at a time—at least 15 to 20 times over one and a half years.

Despite putting the lives of thousands at risk, Salme only got fined a couple thousand dollars and was banned from flying for a year. Thinking twice about it, it's kind of reasonable. Despite being crazy enough to pull such a stunt, it's not entirely his fault. After all, how can a company and the flight agencies involved be so absolutely inept? How can they accept a simple printout and put a random guy in the cockpit of a passenger plane without running any background checks? A simple Google search would have probably turned out enough information to stop this from the beginning. I can imagine Frank Abagnale Jr. pulling this stunt in the 60s, but now? There are no excuses.

If anyone needs to be nailed, that's the useless authorities that make us follow all kinds of stupid security procedures to get into an airplane, but can miserably fail to check the identity and qualification of the pilots flying the plane.

http://gizmodo.com/5540789/the-guy-w...s-a-fake-pilot

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-17-2010, 12:05 PM
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That's insane... but hey, he's doing something right!
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Google wasn't around 13 years ago.

The guys got balls. And I think it's weird that he's not allowed to fly for a year...which means they will let him fly again?!

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Google wasn't around 13 years ago.

The guys got balls. And I think it's weird that he's not allowed to fly for a year...which means they will let him fly again?!
I think that means he cannot be a passanger.

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The guys got balls. And I think it's weird that he's not allowed to fly for a year...which means they will let him fly again?!
Why not. He's got 13 years of experience without any incidents.

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Hahaha, good for him!


On a side note, this scares the shit out of me.

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Ever see the movie or read the book Catch Me if You Can? That guy got away with the same thing.
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Why not. He's got 13 years of experience without any incidents.
^ yep, this. He's done a decent job, even if it was something he's not qualified for.
I do think he should be fined for jackassedness, but I'd rather he get the schooling and become a pilot after flying for this long.

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Ever see the movie or read the book Catch Me if You Can? That guy got away with the same thing.
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He's no idiot , after all , he did fly for 13 years without a problem .

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Ever see the movie or read the book Catch Me if You Can? That guy got away with the same thing.
he wasn't flying the planes he was pretending he is a pilot to cash checks. This guy was a legitimate employee.

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Google wasn't around 13 years ago.

The guys got balls. And I think it's weird that he's not allowed to fly for a year...which means they will let him fly again?!
Why not. What's training but a structured environment to gain experience. This guy now has 13 years of experience AND had the initiative to learn how to fly in the first place.

Sure for the first month or so, I bet it was touch and go... but now, he's probably as good as any other pilot.
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