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I know, I know ... the scariest thing you can say to the childless but I have to do it, myself, at the end of next month.
I know all about the fees (none for me since), what I can/can not bring check/gate check, etc. But I would like, from the parnets on the board, advice on how to make this trip trouble free.
By the time we travel, Lucy will be 19 weeks (~4.5 months). We are flying American from Houston Hobby to DFW on a Embraer (Eagle jet) and then DFW to ORD on an MD-80. I have a seat far forward (1A, and 9A, respectively) and will be traveling with her as a lap infant (she will not have her own seat, unless one comes open then they will give it to her at no charge).
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Make sure Lucy does NOT have sinus congestion or a sinus infection. The pressure change will be extremely painful if either of these are present, and the kid will absolutely scream in pain. Adults can learn the trick of forcing air into the sinuses to equalize pressure, but a little baby has no chance.

You might consider one of those chest sacks they put babies in. It will hold her close to you and make her feel more secure at takeoff and landing.

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I too am curious and wondering how other parents have dealt with this. I have yet to bring my boy on a plane.

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We traveled with my daughter right around that age as well. Biggest thing is make sure she eats and sleeps good the day before. My wife breast fed while the flight took off, and my daughter pretty much slept the whole way. I'm lucky though and have a very good natured kid. One piece of advice, buy direct flights. The hundred or so you save will absolutely be negated with a grumpy and screaming baby.

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My brother in law is a pilot on that route.

We fed her and or pacified her on take off and landings - to keep her swallowing and from having ear problems.

There was a logic as to which way it was done (I think pacifier up and fed on way down) but I can't remember which was which - I'll email Connie and check. -- now I am second guessing - maybe it was the other way. I will leave it unsure till I hear back.

Doing this she never cried during a take off or landing - and you could hear a # of other babies on the flight screaming (which I imagine was at least partially due to pressure in their ears)
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Take pacifiers to shutup the other passengers that bitch and moan about babies crying and then tell them to find a baby-free flight next time.
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Everything AFTER boarding is cake compared to everything before. We were relieved to finally sit in our seats. Cute kids make all the diff when they start to get ansty on the plane. Good luck.
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They should let the babies fly down in the cargo area with the dogs and cats.
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1- Direct flight is not an option. I can only get direct if I drive 2 hours to Bush (no way) or if I fly into Midway and drive 2 hours to my house in IL.
2- Driving not an option. I don't have the time or the money. $200 to fly? Yeah, I'm flying.
3- I have been flying my ass off for the past 6 years. I have status, Admiral's Club, etc. I know what all the frequent flier snobs think of kids, and IMO they are assholes. Anyone who says kids should get lesser treatment on a plane is an asshole.
If a parent prepares young children to fly, and teaches older children how to behave on a flight, that's the best you can do.
You get into a little silver tube with wings with 150+ people and you expect to have everything go your way? ... You're an idiot.
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1- Direct flight is not an option. I can only get direct if I drive 2 hours to Bush (no way) or if I fly into Midway and drive 2 hours to my house in IL.
2- Driving not an option. I don't have the time or the money. $200 to fly? Yeah, I'm flying.
3- I have been flying my ass off for the past 6 years. I have status, Admiral's Club, etc. I know what all the frequent flier snobs think of kids, and IMO they are assholes. Anyone who says kids should get lesser treatment on a plane is an asshole.
If a parent prepares young children to fly, and teaches older children how to behave on a flight, that's the best you can do.
You get into a little silver tube with wings with 150+ people and you expect to have everything go your way? ... You're an idiot.
I sense some hostitility here.

I'm one of those Gold level fliers, but I really don't mind kids on the plane. I just hate to see them in pain because their parents didn't have a clue about pressure in the sinuses/ears.

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I sense some hostitility here.

I'm one of those Gold level fliers, but I really don't mind kids on the plane. I just hate to see them in pain because their parents didn't have a clue about pressure in the sinuses/ears.
I don't mind kids on a plane, but I DO mind undisciplined and unruly kids in general, whether it be on a plane or in the mall.

there are some kids that just need to be knocked the fuck out....literally.

It really annoys me when parent's can't control their kids....kids meaning 5+ years

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I sense some hostitility here.

I'm one of those Gold level fliers, but I really don't mind kids on the plane. I just hate to see them in pain because their parents didn't have a clue about pressure in the sinuses/ears.
I'm not hostile ... I guess I'm just a little put off because I'm actually asking for advice and best practices from parents who have flown successfully with infants, and I don't think "don't do it" is an appropriate response.
And yes, I understand there are going to be some attempts at humor here, since this is clsb.

Remember, there is a difference between KIDS on a plane and INFANTS on a plane. Kids should know better how to behave and their parents shoud be able to change their behavior. Infants are a different story-- there is a delicate balance between behaviors of theirs you can and can not control.
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remember, there is a difference between kids on a plane and infants on a plane. Kids should know better how to behave and their parents shoud be able to change their behavior. Infants are a different story-- there is a delicate balance between behaviors of theirs you can and can not control.


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I don't mind kids on a plane, but I DO mind undisciplined and unruly kids in general, whether it be on a plane or in the mall.

there are some kids that just need to be knocked the fuck out....literally.

It really annoys me when parent's can't control their kids....kids meaning 5+ years
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THANK YOU. Our flights are at 6am and 8am, and she's very happy in the mornings. I think instead of giving her one big morning feeding, I will do one at 4, one at 6 (on takeoff), and a larger one at 8 (on the next takeoff).
That pretty much corresponds with her normal schedule anyway-- I feed her a small amount at 6:30 or 7am and then she gets her first big feeding upon arrival at daycare.
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THANK YOU. Our flights are at 6am and 8am, and she's very happy in the mornings. I think instead of giving her one big morning feeding, I will do one at 4, one at 6 (on takeoff), and a larger one at 8 (on the next takeoff).
That pretty much corresponds with her normal schedule anyway-- I feed her a small amount at 6:30 or 7am and then she gets her first big feeding upon arrival at daycare.
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isn't this a question you would ask your mother? Or mother in law? Not a moto forum with a bunch of degenerate fuckups.
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i have a front carrier and a sling, i would reccommend using a sling (the kind that doesnt suffocate a baby :P) i preferred the sling for carrying her around. the carrier was uncomfortable for me on the plane, and if i couldnt get comfy she picked up on that. We are blessed with a good natured kid too.
we took the pacifier, and fed her landing and take off, we also brought along other things for her to chew on/snack on. she did really well both times.
she mostly slept. i also packed a smaller diaper bag that had only the essentials that fit inside my carry on to elimate the extra bulk.
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isn't this a question you would ask your mother? Or mother in law? Not a moto forum with a bunch of degenerate fuckups.
My mom didn't fly with us when we were infants. And to be fair, the first time she traveled with me she game me some gum, "for your ears," she said ... and I chewed it up and stuck it in my ears. Not the brightest bulb.

I know you travel with your kids a lot and do well ... so yeah, I was asking here! Besides, if a bunch of degenerate fuckups can do it well, I can ACE it.
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i have a front carrier and a sling, i would reccommend using a sling (the kind that doesnt suffocate a baby :P) i preferred the sling for carrying her around. the carrier was uncomfortable for me on the plane, and if i couldnt get comfy she picked up on that. We are blessed with a good natured kid too.
we took the pacifier, and fed her landing and take off, we also brought along other things for her to chew on/snack on. she did really well both times.
she mostly slept. i also packed a smaller diaper bag that had only the essentials that fit inside my carry on to elimate the extra bulk.
All I have is a bjorn and I'm going to stick with it. If it sucks that badly, I'll buy smoething in chicago for the return trip.
I am just going to carry a larger purse instead of a diaper bag and a purse. I'll check my one suitcase and her car seat. So walking through the airport it will just be me, Lucy, and a large purse.
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