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who has one or access to a kiln? i need to melt some lead, 40lb worth of lead
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you need to pour it? or just melt it

lead is nasty shit when its molten and spatters violently, not to mention the fuems and oxides it releases in its molten state


gimme more info and i can probably help you out, i deal with molten metal all day

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who has one or access to a kiln? i need to melt some lead, 40lb worth of lead
Where are you getting that much lead? You have a source that can hook a brother up?

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You need lead? I have a few lbs of used lead wheel weights I have been trying to get rid of. They are all yours if you want them.

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You need lead? I have a few lbs of used lead wheel weights I have been trying to get rid of. They are all yours if you want them.
That is *exactly* what I need. YES!

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headline in a few months:

clsb member found dead in garage from acute lead poisioning from small scale smelting operation

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what would happen, hypothetically, if some dead hookers were to fall into this kiln thing? Not that I have any dead hookers I need to get rid of or anything.

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headline in a few months:

clsb member found dead in garage from acute lead poisioning from small scale smelting operation
Funny, guys have been doing this in their garages for about 100 years, and I've not heard about them experiencing acute lead poisoning issues. Splashing and other stupidness, sure, but not lead poisoning.

If you're so worried about lead, feel free to give me any and all you don't want.

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moisture of any kind(including hookers) introduced below the surface of the melt will result in an explosion

water changing to steam gets like a 16k times volume increase adn it happens nearly instantly

where i work we melt around 60k lbs of aluminum a day and moisture getting into the furnace is a very serious issue, it can level the building.

aluminum melts around 1200 lead at about 650 either way the water goes to steam and fast
the thing about lead is its propensity to spatter its not a fun metal to deal with because of that, the fumes are easily enough dealt with with ventilation or collection though

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i will need to melt and poor it, and this will ne a first time thing for me so any info is good. i will be filling my forks with lead then welding them stationary. dont ask y..it just needs to be done

I got the lead from ebay, i got 60lb for $55. im only gunna use 40lb so if you need some let me know i will have extra.
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ok, theres a lot that can go disastrously wrong here brandon and im only talking from the casting side of things the rest i have little concern about

first off ALL oil and whatnot needs to be out of the forks oil while not as violent as water will go to vapor and youll have a geyser of lead coming out of the tube

rubber seals will not hold the lead in either so youl lhave squirting leaks. pull the seals and pack with clay and allow to dry will get this done, prehet the entire contraption to at least 200deg to drive off moisture and this can be done.

a steel or cast iron pot and a wood fire in the back yard will provide the necessary temps to do this as well

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Watch it LonelyRaven, melting down a half pound of lead to cast bullets from will level your garage and poison the whole neighborhood. Better call the hazmat team beforehand!!!!!!!!!
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moisture of any kind(including hookers) introduced below the surface of the melt will result in an explosion
You can wet your hand and dip it into molten lead. Not only will it now explode but you won't get burned.

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Back in grade school my Dad and I use to melt lead from old car batteries so we would cast out own weights for fishing. It was good times. No Asians were harmed in the process. Well maybe that explains some of my brain damage.

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You can wet your hand and dip it into molten lead. Not only will it now explode but you won't get burned.

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ive both heard of this and seen it done live but theres no fucking way ill ever try it


im just trying to point out some items that should be considered.

its not hazmat but why poision yourself unnecessarily when a fan behind you will protect you

metal burns arent pretty and i know both of these guys adn would rather not see then get hurt if i had the knowledge to help them avoid it

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Back in grade school my Dad and I use to melt lead from old car batteries so we would cast out own weights for fishing. It was good times. No Asians were harmed in the process. Well maybe that explains some of my brain damage.
I used to do the same. I'd wet my weiner and use it to stir the molten lead.
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I used to do the same. I'd wet my weiner and use it to stir the molten lead.
All 2 inches of it? Must have taken a long time to stir.

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Oh man, I was just watching a rebuild show on speedtv yesterday and they were "leading" an old mercury, talking about how leading is coming back. That guy had sticks of lead and a blow torch with his face right over the work sucking in all those fumes.
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Thanks for the heads up Jason, i may try this at work in our welding bay, it is properly ventet there. im thinking of using the gas torches with the rose bud tip to heat the lead, just not sure if it will heat it up to fast and cause more damage then good. I "should" be able to get all the oil out of the forks using the Cuda parts washer.
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Thanks for the heads up Jason, i may try this at work in our welding bay, it is properly ventet there. im thinking of using the gas torches with the rose bud tip to heat the lead, just not sure if it will heat it up to fast and cause more damage then good. I "should" be able to get all the oil out of the forks using the Cuda parts washer.
the torch will get hot enough but youll loose too much heat to get enough for a good pour melted

its like boiling a pot of water with a torch the heat is too concentrated to effectively heat everything

if you can snag a roofers torch and the pot to melt the lead in that may just work

practice your entire routine to pour the forks first without metal in the pot
and 40lbs will feel a lot heavier then youd think when its hot as shit and sloshing around

5 gallons of water in a bucket will sub into the routine as the lead

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if you just want the forsk stationary, why not just insert a steel rod thats the ID and length of the fork, that should be close to 40lbs per leg then use the fork cap to hold it in

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I don't think I even want to know what Brandon is doing. Is this something I need to be involved in that I have a suitable alibi for b?

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Speed holes in his frame made his bike too fast, so he's adding lead to the forks to stabilize it a bit.

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Do the whole 60 lbs b

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Do the whole 60 lbs b

nah, i think 40lb is enough....this isnt the first time i have done this
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They sell solder pots that are used for melting lead, not 40lbs of it, but enough to do some bullets

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