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I'm kinda OK with it. It was primarily their fault, but other things in the whole process caused this horrible incident. I know I have not gone out of my way to get BP gas or products, and that is what I will continue to do. I'm not sure how much we can actually hurt them by trying to boycott. Maybe they will make a few billion in profit next quarter, that might be nice.

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Vern - You should ACTUALLY think more about Boycotting Citgo - Owned by Chavez and he has fucked more people over than the BP spill ever will - The Spill will clean up yet Chavez will continue with his page from the Castro playbook

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Vern - You should ACTUALLY think more about Boycotting Citgo - Owned by Chavez and he has fucked more people over than the BP spill ever will - The Spill will clean up yet Chavez will continue with his page from the Castro playbook
we can survive, just looking at the poor birds and marine life struggling to survive just makes me sick.


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All of these oil companies are the same.
And if people do protest, it will be forgotten about in a couple of months

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Food for thought-

Most oil companies make 10 to 13 percent profit. While the quarterly earnings are in the billions, most companies would be broke at that rate of profit, most likely including the ones we all work for. Best case is that they keep selling the shit so they can afford to clean up the giant fucking mess.
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By boycotting gas stations, aren't you hurting the gas station owners more, rather than the big oil companies?
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By boycotting gas stations, aren't you hurting the gas station owners more, rather than the big oil companies?
Ding ding ding, i think they are all privately owned
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after credit card fees and all that, gas station owners make shit on the gas anyway. In the 2-5/gal. range in most places.

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Just because you don't use the station does not mean you still are avoiding BP oil.

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Vern - You should ACTUALLY think more about Boycotting Citgo - Owned by Chavez and he has fucked more people over than the BP spill ever will - The Spill will clean up yet Chavez will continue with his page from the Castro playbook
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frack citgo owners for choosing to support his crazy dictator ass.


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after credit card fees and all that, gas station owners make shit on the gas anyway. In the 2-5/gal. range in most places.
they make around 8%
the cities tax around 30%
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by boycotting BP, you are only hurting your neighbors and friends. all those stations are owned by local folks trying to make a living and they dont make shit as it is. also tons of americans are employed at BP refineries. BP is spending boatloads of cash to clean this up and they arent passing it along to consumers yet. I wouldnt boycot them.




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The stock market is punishing them worse than anything else.
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The stock market is punishing them worse than anything else.
That's because once they've cleaned it up, the market realizes that Barry and Co., will seek to kill BP through whatever means possible, legal or not.

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That's because once they've cleaned it up, the market realizes that Barry and Co., will seek to kill BP through whatever means possible, legal or not.[/QUOTE]

Sad to say there really is no cleaning this up Rob.
It's like when my
Wife asks me to clean the house and comes home to it looking about 10% better and I just swishes shit around on the floor rather than getting down there and scrubbing it. What were those numbers? 8% oil removal?

It's terrible. A nuke would have done less environmental damage. How often can you say that?
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I heard on the news this morning that it's likely to hit a current in the atlantic ocean which will take it all the way to europe. They said that if this happens, it could take 10 years to clean it all up.

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All BP will do is sell their gas to other gas companies, they won't hurt at all.

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The oil industry as a whole is too large for a few people who boycott them to really make a difference. If you want to make significant change, buy this Nissan Leaf that is coming out as it's fully electric.
Put solar panels on your home to reduce your usage of local grid power.
Cut back on the amount of driving you do and either take more public transportation or ride a mountain bike more often.
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all those private gas station owners are funneling money into al Queda anyway.


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So if BP has less money, does that mean they have less money to clean up the mess? This isn't the first time nor the last where corporations have "mistakes" and they were slow in fixing it. Or they could have spent the extra money to make it never happen in the first place.
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BP is not a villian here. They are in many ways the biggest victim. Chances are the compnay will not survive as we know it today because of this.
Surely there are many things that makes BP responsible, but if you watch what's happening, as a company they are living up to their responsibility. Why boycott a company that's trying to do the right thing? It could have been any oil company OR it could have been a foreign concern from a part of the world where they wouldn't care and disappear and leave the capping and clean up to the government alone!

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It seems to me that all involved are trying their best to stop the oil flow.

However, I'd love to see the investigation on the decisions made BEFORE the blowout that may have bypassed safety steps or eliminated failsafes in order to speed production and save costs. These cost-saving decisions are made every day in pretty much every business, and they expose us to the potential of disaster, and this one seems to be turning into one of the biggest in recent memory.

Not sure a boycott of the local BP station would have any effect. This disaster will need to play out, and the hard work will be in the cleanup, because whatever could have been done to prevent it was either not done, or was ineffective.

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THe 'victims' will be the common stockholders

This is going to be expensive enough to hit even the top preferred stockholders...But, what you say supports my point. The company IS responsible in more than one sense of the word AND they surely seem to be living up to it. Why try to deliberately hurt the company when it's doing everything in its power to make it right?
Accidents happen, things fail and go wrong. When that's the case the integrity is in the actions of those involved...in this case it's a multi national corporation...to make things right again.
There's going to be plenty of time to find cause and blame and consequences later... we need to take a long hard look at everything here and do the things, enforce the rules, set new ones AND get the equipment that was SORELY lacking in place to prevent another incident like this...it wasn't just BP that dropped the ball here. The technology is available, why wasn't it in place?...Right now, cutting off the companies cash flow would be the worst thing to do.
Besides...as others pointed out the effect of a boycott would be minimal at best.

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Vern - You should ACTUALLY think more about Boycotting Citgo - Owned by Chavez and he has fucked more people over than the BP spill ever will - The Spill will clean up yet Chavez will continue with his page from the Castro playbook
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Ding ding ding, i think they are all privately owned
Actually When BP bought out Amoco they made it hard for privatiers so they could make them company owned stations. Thats why a lot of amoco station changed brands and new BP stations were built.

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Had a client who owned a Shell. At one point when gas was getting back pretty low a few months ago, he was also in a price war with a BP next to him. He said that he lost 1 cent on every gallon of gas he sold. Only made money on what people bought inside, and that his taxi business was the only way he could pay his bills.

So yes, boycotting them, unfortunately hurts the owner more than the oil company. I heard recently that BP is giving the gas station owners a 1 cent bonus on every gallon they buy because a lot of the no-name (like Jewel gas station) aren't going to BP for their gas now, but rather choosing a different supplier.
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