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not on the clock, not my problem

so are you or people you know like this at work. pisses me off, especially, when its a humanity act that you can't pursue.


Examples
Guy using a milling machine, gets his shirt sleeve pulled in, no way can free himself or hit the "stop button"
"hey hey hey JOE, can you help me"
"sorry, i can't i'm off the clock"


Guy storms in with AK47 shooting peoples fawking heads off at the plant. One employee is wounded and crawling with blood following his path. Finds another guy in the locker room,getting ready to go home. Walter, can you call 911, we need HELP. "oh im sorry, i'm off the clock, not my problem"
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 06-10-2010, 01:38 AM
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Lazy people also piss me off!

I know what you mean. There are people who work hard, and those who go thru the motions. Won't help out others when needed. My boss is like that in many ways. Paper reading is his specialty.
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What are you talking about?
see examples

people at work that can't help someone out just because they are not getting paid for it.
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Comes down and shows the type of person they are, and how much they care about there business. IMO if you cant take 5 minutes out of your time to help somone at work then they really need to reevaluate them selves and their job choice

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Comes down and shows the type of person they are, and how much they care about there business. IMO if you cant take 5 minutes out of your time to help somone at work then they really need to reevaluate them selves and their job choice
Naturally, they only ponder this stuff while on the clock...

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IMO I can give a couple of minutes to help out, without bitching about it
But you also gotta understand theres a liability issue to. What if said person is helping out while not on the clock and that person gets hurt. That just opened the door to a lawsuit.

I'm personally not the type to do that, but in this sue happy environment we live in, somebody would
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Two words: Post office.
two more words... Salary, 24/7-on-call

But I have those kind of people working for me and I hate it...
"oh but I already worked 8hrs and if I help you I will have to stay 10more min" "Well you will get Overtime pay and if you help me for 10min I can finally go home after being here for the last 16hrs.."

I battle this topic every day and it's amazing how you can get fucked everyday over and over. If we have not much work I let people go home early with pay, but when I need them to stay a bit over and have them on OT pay, nobody feels like helping....

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the two examples in the OP suck and I think youve underestimated man kind.

I think youre the one who got busted not helping out and are trying to justify what you did

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not on the clock, not my problem

If it's an emergency I try to help out. But i'm responsible for my own schedule. Ie just cause u showed up at 8am and need help to get a project our by 5 that you've had all week go fuck yourself. Yeah I'm leaving at five cause I was shooting out emails till 11 last night and on my job at 630 the next morning.

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Unless its an emergency its stupid to work off the clock because if you get hurt the company does not have to cover you. If I'm getting paid I will gladly help.

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its not really about doing someones job off the clock.

more like

you see someones hand being cut off in a machine and decide not to do anything since your day is over.
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When I go to work, I don't do anything until I'm on duty. When I'm done I try and leave work at work. FFS is someone is in danger, humanity kicks in and I will help. While on the clock I give it everything I have. And yes, I am union and on call 24/7/365.
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Pay people well enough and provide good benefits and this is rarely a problem.
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Guy storms in with AK47 shooting peoples fawking heads off at the plant. One employee is wounded and crawling with blood following his path. Finds another guy in the locker room,getting ready to go home. Walter, can you call 911, we need HELP. "oh im sorry, i'm off the clock, not my problem"
I belive this example is not that realistic...

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I think the original point is that some people are so self absorbed, that they will not help others when they see no personal benefit from the action.

The examples given are extreme cases. A more realistic case might be something like this: A guy at your work has a family emergency (say his wife and kids are involved in a serious car crash) and needs to leave. He asks you in a pinch to help cover his work that day. You tell him that you will be off the clock at 5pm and after that it is not your problem, so go ask someone else.

In that case, maybe you stay a few hours longer and help cover his work that day because you feel for the guys situation. There may be no personal gain for it, you just do it because you care/want to.

I unfortunately knew a few people like this, that at the end of the day they could care less about anyone or anything but themselves. Usually these people were not at the job very long.

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Pay people well enough and provide good benefits and this is rarely a problem.
I disagree. I watched my company boost all employees beyond average rates for their positions with these hopes. results? those that would help at their prior rate of pay still did. those that wouldn't assist in a pinch still didn't. then they bitched when it was "too long between raises" in a company that bases pay off merit 99% of the time.

those that want to help will. those that take pride in their efforts will do so whether they make 20k a year or 200k a year.
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I belive this example is not that realistic...
it was happening a lot in the late 90s. People coming to work and going postal.
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