Tom I don't even ride on the street any more and all my bikes have pipes that came from the factory on them (full disclosure the aprilia pipes are pretty frickin loud and are "race track only")
I personally don't have a horse in the game right now, just intentionally misstated facts are this huge pet peeve of mine (i am so that "somebody is wrong on the internet" guy.. and I know it)
Piped Harleys are louder than piped Sportbikes - even at full bore on the sportbike.
That is fact.
If I get another street bike it will either be a motard or a cruiser (probably a harley).
I need to take away the temptation to smear myself on the pavement and I think getting something that didn't make me think "i could have gone through that 10mph faster" every corner I go through will do that.. fingers crossed.
oh and your biker thing? yeah.. that was a long time ago.. now most harley bikers are accountants and lawyers or ceo types trying to imitate the bikers you're talking about.
Every morning on my walk to the train I see the same 3 harley guys go by me wearing suits.
in regards to the harassed sportbiker comment well we both know that could go either way. I have seen harleys pass sportbikes and then saw the sportbikes get pulled over, i have heard a million times about selective enforcement.. but that's not what this discussion was about. I said Harley's were louder than sportbikes and that *is* generally the case.
The loudest sport bikes I have ever heard may have been on par with Harleys.. Laguna Seca in 2005 in the pit area - they warmed up the liter GP bikes.. Hairs on my arm are standing on end just remembering that vrm vroom vrooom vrooom noise. Admittedly those bikes are a bit more race ready than the 75% of sportbikes with a slip on and maybe a pc or the 75% of harleys with a straight pipe on them that consists basically of a piece of open pipe with 0 baffles and one or two bends (dipped in chrome of course)