Perhaps I'm out of line here.... if so, let me know.
Don't know how many of you have dealt with FuelMotoUsa.com
Thing that sold me on becoming their customer was the fact that they say the provide custom maps for their customers. Now, obviously bringing your bike to get it dyno'd with a Power Commander is the way to go, however the issue at hand is not with their maps being the best.
I put on a higher flow air filter kit for my motard. Send an email asking for a map, not necessarily one form my particular kit. I'm reasonable and realize they didn't dyno every possible combination on my particular bike. However, I said any map they have that they tested with increased air intake would do. So in couple of days they email me back with the map. Now here is the kicker:
They downloaded a map from dynojet website, renamed it, and send it to me as theirs. Am I wrong to feel insulted?!?
Perhaps I need to get some sand out of my vagina, but I can't shake of the feeling that they could've just said "we haven't had a chance to dyno your bike model other than stock (their stock map for my bike is different than any of the dynojets map), sorry" instead of doing what they did.
Oh! If it's free you're always rollin the dice bro. I agree with at least giving you a heads up about where they got the map from.
It isn't free, when it's their selling point, and reason I'd choose them over someone cheaper.
douche your vag. Sorry to be a little rough but i have dealt personally with fuelmoto. They are the cheapest on the net for power commanders and they actually provide customer service. At least when i dealt with them 4 years ago. Drive or trailer the bike up there for a 140 dollar dynotunning and custom map. I did 4 years ago and loved it. The owner was cool as hell, answered all my questions, and even let me watch him dyno tune it.
I like it rough, no reason to appologize
That being said, they are not the cheapest, and customer service is the reason I was willing to pay more. If I didn't live over 1000 miles away from them, I'd considering taking the bike there lol.
Considering, that is probably the most inaccurate way to tune your bike I wouldnt worry about it. Truly custom maps made the proper way for your specific bike will cost you 300 and up.
I'm pretty sure the most inaccurate way to tune a bike is to adjust fuel settings without every dynoing the bike
They had my make and model bike that they dyno'd. I'm not looking to get max horsepower/torque out of it, just wanted to get rid of the original lean fuel settings out of factory (due to EPA), and to be able to adjust fuel in case I mod intake/exhaust.
When buying a Power Commander you also have to budget for a dyno tune. All bikes are different even the exact same models. Whats good for one bike could be harmful to the next bike.
Yes, there are slight difference between the bikes, but if your last sentence was correct, bikes would be in deep shit coming out of factories with the stock ECU
Again, not looking really for power here, just a safe Air/Fuel ratio.
Originally Posted by Chicago Performance
Tell Jamie I said hi.
I'm thinking maybe I should talk to him, instead of emailing Keith (guy responsible for the "custom" maps)
Though I did talk to Jamie once, before buying the PCV. He did seem little too busy to really answer my questions...