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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-31-2010, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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Question for the EMTs

If EMS arrives on the scene of someone who is DOA are they required to take that person to the hospital for analysis or can they take that DOA person straight to the morgue?

A freind of the family was at a holloween party at the Hilton downtown last night and her friend fell off a banister down like 4 stories. The friend of the family said they were waiting at the hospital and the ambulance never showed up. Supposedly they took her right to the morgue. Is this standard protocol?

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Yes, this is standard protocol.

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Yikes - Sorry to hear of this Nick - Prayers out to her family

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I didn't know the girl but it is very unfortunate. RIP

Here is the news article. My prayers go out to her family and friends. She was messing around sliding down a banister and fell. Sucks.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...g-teacher.html

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Yes, this is standard protocol.

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Thanks Danny. I'd like to read that protocol. I figured since the EMTs aren't doctors they weren't allowed to pronounce her dead. I was always under the impression that a doctor had to pronounce that. Like even my grandma died in her sleep and they brought her into the hospital to pronounce her.

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Maybe, if you fall 4 stories, it's an easy call. Just sayin'.

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The EMTs call their resource hospital & request permission from the doctor over the radio to take the patient to the morgue.
They have to decribe the criteria for DOA @ the scene to get this permission.
Some of these are decapitation,rigor mortis,incineration, massive brain trauma, stillbirth.

The only time a doctor has to pronounce the patient DOA is when the paramedics/EMTs make the decision to start CPR. In that case the patient is considered salvagable until the doctor deems he/she is not.


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Sorry to hear, allot of my friends knew Meghan and as for me being an emt, we do not make those decisions, we can only initiate cpr even if its clear that their dead. It is not up to us to decide if the person is doa.
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That's terrible. Very sorry to hear.

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Not sure about the EMTs...

But that is awful to hear, RIP, prayers sent for family and friends.
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I forgot to mention, there are certain times we can get approval for a morgue but thats only if severe cases such as decapitations ect. My main question is, and you should question as well is why were emt's called to such a call?
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