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Ummmm WTF!? Somebody if at all possible explain to me the benefit of this practice/ruling to our society/goverment?

Last time I checked, the last thing I'd think was a suitable benefit to be able to take advantage of being an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT in OUR country is tuition and financial aid....... Maaaaaaaaaaan whatever, shit gets more F#CKED up every freaking day!

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After reading the article linked in the original post it seems that the law passed was not to give illegal immigrants a free college education but to allow them to pay the in state rate for tuition. Meaning that if you live in Illinois and wanted to attend USC, you would pay out of state tuition which would cost more. Where a person from California can go to USC at a cheaper price. The idea is that hopefully immigrants graduating from California high schools will pursue a college education now that it will be cheaper for them. The article stated that roughly 65,000 immigrants graduate yearly, I believe the idea is to get as many of these 65,000 students into college. It will hopefully bring in more students and money into schools. Again, nothing in the article suggested that illegal immigrants would get a free ride, or state funding of any kind, they are just being allowed to pay the same tuition rate as residents of California.
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meh, this has been going on for awhile.


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Yes, this is about paying 'in state' versus 'out of state' tuition rates... not about giving every illegal a free college education.

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Tax payers are still fronting some of the bill for these illegal scumbags. State colleges are subsidized.

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After reading the article linked in the original post it seems that the law passed was not to give illegal immigrants a free college education but to allow them to pay the in state rate for tuition. Meaning that if you live in Illinois and wanted to attend USC, you would pay out of state tuition which would cost more. Where a person from California can go to USC at a cheaper price. The idea is that hopefully immigrants graduating from California high schools will pursue a college education now that it will be cheaper for them. The article stated that roughly 65,000 immigrants graduate yearly, I believe the idea is to get as many of these 65,000 students into college. It will hopefully bring in more students and money into schools. Again, nothing in the article suggested that illegal immigrants would get a free ride, or state funding of any kind, they are just being allowed to pay the same tuition rate as residents of California.
Yeah, so LEGAL residents from say Colorado have to pay more than ILLEGAL residents of California? How in the world is that fair?

It's all about buying votes...and the funny thing about that is illegal aliens aren't supposed to be able to vote. What does that tell you!

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Agreed, this should be used as a big deportation sting.

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Thats racist! blah blah, thats racist!
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Thats racist! blah blah, thats racist!
I never specified a race. Illegal immigrants in general. (Mexicans in particular )

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Tax payers are still fronting some of the bill for these illegal scumbags. State colleges are subsidized.
Just like these ''scumbags'' that are working with fake security numbers are giving the government countless $$ in taxes that are paying your unemployment son.

Most of the people that are here illegally that work with fake socials will never retire here nor get retirement benefits. Enjoy the free money you proud american partriot. You were born here, you are a native, your parents never emigrated to he usa. +5 brownie points for you.

Some people need to educate themselves before they speak. You should be happy that the majority are here to work and now some want to educate themselves. *some* americans live on welfare and don't take advantage of being ''american''.
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Just like these ''scumbags'' that are working with fake security numbers are giving the government countless $$ in taxes that are paying your unemployment son.

Most of the people that are here illegally that work with fake socials will never retire here nor get retirement benefits. Enjoy the free money you proud american partriot. You were born here, you are a native, your parents never emigrated to he usa. +5 brownie points for you.

Some people need to educate themselves before they speak. You should be happy that the majority are here to work and now some want to educate themselves. *some* americans live on welfare and don't take advantage of being ''american''.
Since these shit head Illegal Aliens are committing Identity theft and paying taxes its legit?

Also I have never taken Unemployment.

I have no problem ppl coming here legally.

I am pissed off that these Illegal Aliens are stealing our jobs overcrowding our schools and bringing violence into this country. We have enough poor people in this country, that we have a hard time taking care of we do not need more.



There are an estimated 12 million Illegal shit heads in this country and an estimated 14 million AMERICANS that lost there jobs. Do the math they are fucking up our country.

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Just like these ''scumbags'' that are working with fake security numbers are giving the government countless $$ in taxes that are paying your unemployment son.

Most of the people that are here illegally that work with fake socials will never retire here nor get retirement benefits. Enjoy the free money you proud american partriot. You were born here, you are a native, your parents never emigrated to he usa. +5 brownie points for you.

Some people need to educate themselves before they speak. You should be happy that the majority are here to work and now some want to educate themselves. *some* americans live on welfare and don't take advantage of being ''american''.


Most of the people on this forum will never see retirement benefits either. And to think, they have been contributing legally.

What gives a person that can jump a fence more entitlement than my family that came here thru legal process? Why are there things such as the anchor baby law?

Why is it that CA, OR, WA all are having crushing problems with welfare and services that coincided with the migration of mexican people. As each state tightened down they would progress to the next state.

Why is it that AZ had to stand up to federal to enforce the LAW.

Why do most countries around the world enforce their borders with the army whereas we have a piddly squad called the border patrol that has to deal with Mexican drug cartel armies and the border patrol gets jailed for failure to document things correctly.

Why come here instead of trying to make things better where they are at? because we are the "giveme" country.
Go in to a hospital for services, no SSecurity? congrats! free ride. Increases costs of medical services to people who deserve it and pay for it via insurance or thru benefits. But now, due to increases of costs to dole out more freebie those people get to take another hit.


Why is it that when I went for medical assistance in IL I was denied repeatedly thru every agency and informed that if I was of Hispanic decent or had a kid that then things would be possible in my current situation.
I lied and said I was white because I was so disgusted with the system. My family is from Venezuela, But I am an American. Doesn't get more cut and dry than that.


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There are an estimated 12 million Illegal shit heads in this country and an estimated 14 million AMERICANS that lost there jobs. Do the math they are fucking up our country.




im sorry but I am going to need a democrat to explain this math.
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I never specified a race. Illegal immigrants in general. (Mexicans in particular )
Sadly that is what morons would cry about

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Somebody's gotta cut the grass and cook the food...
We have many lawn contractors and people that love to cook.

Now heres the problem. People in the lawn business are getting killed when you got "people" doing it for 5 dollars an hour.


Some of the restaurants are so cheap, they will have "people" working for below minimum wage while the americans were getting a real salary to cook.



Now you have "people" making 5 dollars an hour, which is useless in todays economy. So then they need handouts to compensate for their lack of salary.
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Kinda sucks when these "people" don't pay taxes and don't even exist on paper and live live phantoms in the USA with no intention of becoming Americanized

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Since these shit head Illegal Aliens are committing Identity theft and paying taxes its legit?

Also I have never taken Unemployment.

I have no problem ppl coming here legally.

I am pissed off that these Illegal Aliens are stealing our jobs overcrowding our schools and bringing violence into this country. We have enough poor people in this country, that we have a hard time taking care of we do not need more.

There are an estimated 12 million Illegal shit heads in this country and an estimated 14 million AMERICANS that lost there jobs. Do the math they are fucking up our country.
From what I hear, most of the SSNs are from dead people or fake.

You've never taken unemployment, good for you, hope you never have to but I bet you would if your family needed to pay the mortgage and you couldnt find a job.

What irks me is that many americans like yourself have no problem when people come here legally but some of you see a non white and make stereotypes and label them as illegals. I've had a few friends that arrived here legally..one of which is an engineer and some asshole suggested he go back to the kitched to cook. If you're non white or non black people assume you're illegal.

I'll give you this one, and I support that any illegal convicted of a violent crime should be kicked out..though if you've noticed (chicagobreakingnews.com) most of the crime here in Chicago is from blacks. (no offense)

If americans wanted to take those jobs they would not be available. Obviously they think they're too good for certain jobs and never even consider them..


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Most of the people on this forum will never see retirement benefits either. And to think, they have been contributing legally.

Why is it that CA, OR, WA all are having crushing problems with welfare and services that coincided with the migration of mexican people. As each state tightened down they would progress to the next state.

Why is it that AZ had to stand up to federal to enforce the LAW.

Why come here instead of trying to make things better where they are at? because we are the "giveme" country.
Go in to a hospital for services, no SSecurity? congrats! free ride. Increases costs of medical services to people who deserve it and pay for it via insurance or thru benefits. But now, due to increases of costs to dole out more freebie those people get to take another hit.


Why is it that when I went for medical assistance in IL I was denied repeatedly thru every agency and informed that if I was of Hispanic decent or had a kid that then things would be possible in my current situation.
I lied and said I was white because I was so disgusted with the system. My family is from Venezuela, But I am an American. Doesn't get more cut and dry than that.


Some people need to educate themselves before they speak.
You may be correct that people here legally may not see retirement benefits but the system is barely kept alive by money coming in from illegals so imagine if there were no illegals...the system would have been dead by now. The problem here is the social sec. system.

You blame those states gross economic mismanagement problems on a single issue and thats unfair. It may have contributed but as I said earlier if it wasnt for those taxes the state would have been worse off.

Why come here instead of trying to make things better where they are at?
Why did you come here? Or were you lucky enough to have your dad bring you? Why dont you ask him that?

They come here because its the next best thing yes. People in south america aspire to reach Mexico..and Mexico is tough with its border laws down south...and south american peoples countries hate Mexico for it. Many Arabs and poles, argentinians and brazilians come through Mexico as well..but it seems to only be a Mexican problem right?

So you are Venezuelan and yet you cant empathize even a little bit with the people. I am Mexican, born. I came here legally and graduated from college etc. Yet I still feel that the judgements made by white people like yourself (since you consider yourelf white now)are very unfair. You are an american because you were born here ? Lets wait to see how long it takes before racist person tells you to go cook his food.


For the record I have no problem with people who are here legally but I also have no problem with the people who are here illegally and are educating themselves, going to college and trying to provide for society. I am in no way defending the idiot gang bangers and criminals.
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If americans wanted to take those jobs they would not be available. Obviously they think they're too good for certain jobs and never even consider them..
and thats an assumption people dont want to work.

like my example above, how do you explain lawn care guys losing business because illegals are doing it for 5 dollars per lawn.



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people here illegally are CRIMINALS. so yes, you are defending CRIMINALS
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Since these shit head Illegal Aliens are committing Identity theft and paying taxes its legit?

Also I have never taken Unemployment.

I have no problem ppl coming here legally.

I am pissed off that these Illegal Aliens are stealing our jobs overcrowding our schools and bringing violence into this country. We have enough poor people in this country, that we have a hard time taking care of we do not need more.



There are an estimated 12 million Illegal shit heads in this country and an estimated 14 million AMERICANS that lost there jobs. Do the math they are fucking up our country.
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you gotta READ first, then spread BS around.

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i am a LEGAL immigrant.
NOT ELIGIBLE for student loans. i paid my tuition via credit card and i'm paying it off on 30% apr.

i was NOT ELIGIBLE for scholarships, although i finished 2 degrees with 4.0 and 3.9

it gets even BETTER!!

after i graduated, i worked for four years and paid ALL taxes, social security, unemployment etc., and guess what? when i lost my job, i was NOT eligible to collect unemployment!!

so, the least that you can do is read thoroughly and not misinform the rest about how the immigrants get all they want.

thank you!

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so, the least that you can do is read thoroughly and not misinform the rest about how the immigrants get all they want.

thank you!

we are talking about ILLEGAL immigrants. THANK YOU

since technically, everyone is an immigrant with a citizenship. Some just lucky to get born here.


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