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Does NASA Have Big News??

They've set a press conference for 2pm EST tomorrow to unveil new findings in Astrobiology, the search for and study of potential ET lifeforms and their probable environments.

It's probably a step on the ladder, but potentially could be REALLY big news.

*fingers crossed*

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010...robiology.html


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It's either... I hope:

They found arsenic on Saturn's moon, Titan.
The Second Genesis
Some unexpected adaption.

I'm not sure which I hope for though.

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It's either... I hope:

They found arsenic on Saturn's moon, Titan.
The Second Genesis
Some unexpected adaption.

I'm not sure which I hope for though.
Didn't the arsenic thing happen in the summer?

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6 Viking's methane

JULY 20, 1976. Gilbert Levin is on the edge of his seat. Millions of kilometres away on Mars, the Viking landers have scooped up some soil and mixed it with carbon-14-labelled nutrients. The mission's scientists have all agreed that if Levin's instruments on board the landers detect emissions of carbon-14-containing methane from the soil, then there must be life on Mars.

Viking reports a positive result. Something is ingesting the nutrients, metabolising them, and then belching out gas laced with carbon-14.

So why no party?

Because another instrument, designed to identify organic molecules considered essential signs of life, found nothing. Almost all the mission scientists erred on the side of caution and declared Viking's discovery a false positive. But was it?

The arguments continue to rage, but results from NASA's latest rovers show that the surface of Mars was almost certainly wet in the past and therefore hospitable to life. And there is plenty more evidence where that came from, Levin says. "Every mission to Mars has produced evidence supporting my conclusion. None has contradicted it."

Levin stands by his claim, and he is no longer alone. Joe Miller, a cell biologist at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles, has re-analysed the data and he thinks that the emissions show evidence of a circadian cycle. That is highly suggestive of life.

Levin is petitioning ESA and NASA to fly a modified version of his mission to look for "chiral" molecules. These come in left or right-handed versions: they are mirror images of each other. While biological processes tend to produce molecules that favour one chirality over the other, non-living processes create left and right-handed versions in equal numbers. If a future mission to Mars were to find that Martian "metabolism" also prefers one chiral form of a molecule to the other, that would be the best indication yet of life on Mars.
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Didn't the arsenic thing happen in the summer?

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Not according to your FOX NEWS article

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"I'd say that they've discovered arsenic on Titan and maybe even detected chemical evidence of bacteria utilizing it for photosynthesis," Kottke theorizes, a hypothesis short of actually confirming alien life.

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They probably found some micro organism or something. Big fucking deal. Where's there other intelligent life at?

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I heard that NASA's new Polar Orbiting Density Scanner (PODS), part of the Earth Observation System (EOS), a collection of satellites monitoring the globe for signs of large-scale change, has found an extremely dense spot in the Milne Ice Shelf. At this spot NASA discovers a very dense meteorite. In it are insect fossils very similar to, but not the same as, species on earth. NASA claims this as proof of extraterrestrial life.
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I heard that NASA's new Polar Orbiting Density Scanner (PODS), part of the Earth Observation System (EOS), a collection of satellites monitoring the globe for signs of large-scale change, has found an extremely dense spot in the Milne Ice Shelf. At this spot NASA discovers a very dense meteorite. In it are insect fossils very similar to, but not the same as, species on earth. NASA claims this as proof of extraterrestrial life.
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They probably found some micro organism or something. Big fucking deal. Where's there other intelligent life at?
yeah cause we can only hope they are as smart as us.

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I'd like to read that article.
it was just a joke. that's what happened in dan brown's deception point.
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Not according to your FOX NEWS article


I was thinking of the Acetlyne or lack thereof.

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They probably found some micro organism or something. Big fucking deal. Where's there other intelligent life at?
It would be a big deal...arguably the most important discovery in science.

Look up the Drake Equation, and consider the possibilities such a discovery would open up.

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It's always dicey when discovering a new organism, look what happened to the crew of the Nostromo or the terraformers on LV-426.

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It's always dicey when discovering a new organism, look what happened to the crew of the Nostromo or the terraformers on LV-426.
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I heard that NASA's new Polar Orbiting Density Scanner (PODS), part of the Earth Observation System (EOS), a collection of satellites monitoring the globe for signs of large-scale change, has found an extremely dense spot in the Milne Ice Shelf. At this spot NASA discovers a very dense meteorite. In it are insect fossils very similar to, but not the same as, species on earth. NASA claims this as proof of extraterrestrial life.
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Look up the Drake Equation, and consider the possibilities such a discovery would open up.

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Maybe this will prove the theory that our origins came from another planet, itwill prove it was santa and jesus flying around the galaxy on his sled and decided to stop here make a glory hole in the garden of eden that jesues dad made and was empty cause adam and eve fucked up and his dad just plain forgot about earth some of the load that jesus sucked out of santa leaked out of his mouth or leaked out of someones can fell into the pond and one thing lead to another and the shit evolved into dinos and as we know the rest is history.
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^^So lame.

Unless of course you're joking

You understand the point of the equation right? Or did you just do a quick google search?

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Almost as screwed up

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it was just a joke. that's what happened in dan brown's deception point.
i was reading your post and wondering whynit sounded so framiliar lol


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It's always dicey when discovering a new organism, look what happened to the crew of the Nostromo or the terraformers on LV-426.

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^^So lame.

Unless of course you're joking

You understand the point of the equation right? Or did you just do a quick google search?
I understand the point of the equation (I just like XKCDs interpretation). Its pretty obvious when you look at the number of galaxies that we think there are.

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Its pretty obvious when you look at the number of galaxies that we think there are.
Not to all...and that is exactly the point. No matter how miniscule you make the factors you come out with many, many possibilities. It was conceived for benefit of skeptics, not to support any scientific position of the researchers.

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Not to all...and that is exactly the point. No matter how miniscule you make the factors you come out with many, many possibilities. It was conceived for benefit of skeptics, not to support any scientific position of the researchers.
Well I'm sorry it wasn't obvious to you.

It doesn't matter what the factors are because the amount of planets basically approaches infinity.

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