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Say you spent a really long time in college and have a very large bill because of this. You LOVE what you do, but jobs are scarce and the pay isnt great. This is an inside job from 8-5. You also have the option to do something you enjoy, pays really well, its more of an outside job, hours would be more noon to 8/9ish, job is very secure. Benefits between the two are very similar.

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if the cash is a significant jump, go with the other job. otherwise, stick with what you love cause working a job you totally fucking hate (like myself,) is just horrible.
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if the cash is a significant jump, go with the other job. otherwise, stick with what you love cause working a job you totally fucking hate (like myself,) is just horrible.
the second option pays almost double. Which would allow for a lot more freedoms. Its a very stable job. Option 1 would potentially require changing jobs multiple times, hopefully within the same company

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Money is great, but if you can pay the bills with the job you love, do that. And as you said, these jobs are hard to come by.

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What are the chances of future advancement in the two jobs?

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I'd go with either of the options, get laid off, file for unemployment so that I don't have to support my dad then post it on clsb.
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Does the lack of cash negatively impact the quality of the rest of your life? If not, stay with what you love. But if say, you are living with overwhelming debt & it is ruining your day, take the better paying gig to solve the bigger issue.

While I believe you should do what you love, if you can, a job is also a means to an end. And if your quality of life is suffering as a result, then you may have to make a change.
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What are the chances of future advancement in the two jobs?
the first is more of a mental job, future advancement would come more from knowledge gained, increase in salary would eventually stop

The second is more of a physical job, future advancement would include better hours, with the potential to move into managment (as I'm already trained), and the pay would keep increasing

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Does the lack of cash negatively impact the quality of the rest of your life?
not necessarly, but its very tight, living very minimally. The second would pay well enough to pay all debts, and have a very enjoyable lifestyle

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the first is more of a mental job, future advancement would come more from knowledge gained, increase in salary would eventually stop

The second is more of a physical job, future advancement would include better hours, with the potential to move into managment (as I'm already trained), and the pay would keep increasing
So it sounds like what you are asking is if you are dumb for wanting to throw out your desk job to do a physical labor job that has nothing to do with your degree?

The answer is no, do what you love to do within reason. If you can make ends meet, short and long term, I can't see a downside.

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also, you need to tell me what this $$$ job is so i can go do it myself! haha
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...how do you know for sure that the paths for the two jobs you described will be just so...how do you know that the manual labor job you will not end up hating two months into it an how do you know that the love you job will not open parallel paths for you that will be lucrative and you will love even more.

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here are the 2 options. I currently work at a hospital as a research scientist, these jobs are typically grant funded, so pay is limited. I have a great education that is of graduate level. However my funding didnt come through and am forced to find another position, this could be a reoccurring theme over the course of a lifetime

the second job is at fedex, driving a truck. not entirely an outside job, but parts of it would be

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...how do you know for sure that the paths for the two jobs you described will be just so...how do you know that the manual labor job you will not end up hating two months into it an how do you know that the love you job will not open parallel paths for you that will be lucrative and you will love even more.
i've been doing both for a long time, one has been FT the other PT, it has varied which one is which over the years

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I'd do both and retire on my own island in the Caribbean.
That is just because you are the pimp and I bet you would not just do both, you'd also keep CP operational and still train for some type of Iron Man competition. Like I said pimp.

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also, you need to tell me what this $$$ job is so i can go do it myself! haha
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not necessarly, but its very tight, living very minimally. The second would pay well enough to pay all debts, and have a very enjoyable lifestyle
Again - ask yourself which job do you think would help you attain a better overall quality of life? Your work life is a large part, but still only a part, of your overall life, and the cash you get from it fuels the non-work aspect.

And don't necessarily think about today or tomorrow, but about 2 years, 3 years, and 5 years from now.
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How much does a Fed Ex driver make?

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That is just because you are the pimp and I bet you would not just do both, you'd also keep CP operational and still train for some type of Iron Man competition. Like I said pimp.
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here are the 2 options. I currently work at a hospital as a research scientist, these jobs are typically grant funded, so pay is limited. I have a great education that is of graduate level. However my funding didnt come through and am forced to find another position, this could be a reoccurring theme over the course of a lifetime

the second job is at fedex, driving a truck. not entirely an outside job, but parts of it would be
Yea, but if you work on a project that discovers cure for stupid or something lethal like that, you'll be rolling in the $$$. Think about that.

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How much does a Fed Ex driver make?
when I was full time there, the first year I was at about 60K, the second and third year I was just about 70K

The research jobs would be in the 35-45 range

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Yea, but if you work on a project that discovers cure for stupid or something lethal like that, you'll be rolling in the $$$. Think about that.
the pharmacuetical companys make all the money on this, not the people that discover the shit

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the pharmacuetical companys make all the money on this, not the people that discover the shit
not 100% true...NU and the guy that invented Lyrica did just fine.

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not 100% true...NU and the guy that invented Lyrica did just fine.
there are a number of cases where people did make large money in research, but the reality of that happening is slim. It would be like any of us becoming a moto GP racer

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there are a number of cases where people did make large money in research, but the reality of that happening is slim. It would be like any of us becoming a moto GP racer
I could care less about becoming a GP racer or knowing anyone who is, but I would love to cure stupid or shake that persons hand.

As far as your choice, lack of money is frustrating, but is less frustrating than doing a job that you do not love. You have a serious decision to make, so good luck with it.

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Go Fedex. You can drive around all day, make bank and have the union protect you. Where's the negative?

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You say that the second option is something you enjoy (if you enjoy something you can grow to love it), the pay is almost double with similar benefits and as far as hours go as long as you have weekends off you can easily adapt. Seems the biggest problem is deciding whether you want to work inside or outside. For me personally it would be a no brainer. I worked outside in all kinds of weather for 25 years and I couldn't have standed having to work inside...especially for better pay!...but, that's me.

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Go Fedex. You can drive around all day, make bank and have the union protect you. Where's the negative?
Fedex = non union, however they are paid pretty well (as Derrick posted), I am pretty sure that pay is including overtime.

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