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Need: Cylinder sleeve puller

Anyone have one that I could borrow for a few hours?

Need to pull some sleeves that are giving me one hell of a time, I've tried penetrating oil and a propane torch to no avail, just need them out, won't be going back in so some damage to the sleeves is fine. If someone has a kit or a ghetto rigged setup, let me know, I'm not going to drop $500 on a kit for this project that I'm going to use once, I have tried calling local car parts stores but no one seems to rent them either.

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cylinder sleeves as in for the pistons in the engine

can you cut the wall of the sleeve to and get at the bottom with a punch to drive it out?

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cylinder sleeves as in for the pistons in the engine

can you cut the wall of the sleeve to and get at the bottom with a punch to drive it out?
Yes, for the pistons.

It's down to a stripped short block now with everything out sans the cylinder sleeves/liners/whatever. I have tried whacking the fuck out of the ass-end and have easily removed one bank of cylinders but the opposing bank will not budge. I'm in the process of designing a setup with my 5 lbs slide hammer to see if that will work but have not got them to move a millimeter as of yet. The other bank just popped right out.

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try packing the sleeves with ice get em as cold as possible , then try pushing em out

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try packing the sleeves with ice get em as cold as possible , then try pushing em out
Hmmm... good idea. On it.

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I dont think you're going to get this done as easy as you think . This will require a press to push them out . Maybe Gus has a setup .

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Yes I can help thanks for thinking of me.

The hot set up might be an I.D. plug with a 1/2-13 hole and shoulder and a tube with a larger than sleeve I.D.

The tube will have a cap with clearance for the 1/2-13 threaded rod that goes in threw the cyl.and pulls the sleeve out.
This same tool will install the new sleeve pulling the other way.

I can put the whole thing together for not much.

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propane torches DO NOT get hot enough to remove anything.

you need a mapp torch, minimum. Anything metal will absorb that heat and radiate it out.


I would probably ask resurrection, if you don't try a mapp torch. you want want to fawk an engine up
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SD, is this for that engine for a table?
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Yes I can help thanks for thinking of me.

The hot set up might be an I.D. plug with a 1/2-13 hole and shoulder and a tube with a larger than sleeve I.D.

The tube will have a cap with clearance for the 1/2-13 threaded rod that goes in threw the cyl.and pulls the sleeve out.
This same tool will install the new sleeve pulling the other way.

I can put the whole thing together for not much.
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SD, is this for that engine for a table?
Aye, it is.

Gus, what are we talking in terms of price?

I don't need the new sleeve pressed in, just the 1/2 bank pressed out. What would cause the first bank to be completely free moving and the other to be TOTALLY locked up?

TDS, you were right, the propane did fuckall and the ice would probably work if it weren't for the fact that the block is in the garage at a very pleasant 37 degrees.

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Put it in the oven at 450 for 30 minutes. I bet they slide right out.
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I can build the puller for under a hundred bucks includes stock.

as for heating that big engine block you'll need a car guy for that.

Ceptor (mike) here on the board has an auto engine machine shop with many years experience.

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You can also try running welds down the length of the sleeves. This will help "shrink" the sleeves.

Try one on each side and see how it goes.

Note: only do small beads, you don't want to overdo it.

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I do have a sleeve puller. You'll probablly need Gus to make a lower collar. I don't know the dimensions of the sleeve, so I don't know if I have a collar. A couple things you can try yourself. Not difficult, but time consuming. The weld thing mentioned is good. Stick arc seems to work best for this. Do you have a sawzall? You could try making a kerf from top to bottom, or do the same with a die grinder or Dremel tool. Be sure to wear eye protection and dust mask. If none of the home remedies work, contact me and we can use the puller or put the block in the press.

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Alright, so finally had some time to tackle this with a Sawzall. After 3 blades, a couple hours and some probably irreversible nerve damage, I knocked out about an inch of 1 sleeve.

Who has a welder that can put a nice bead through all 6 of the sleeves? I have cash for your time or can buy you a few beers or whatever you want. Let me know if anyone can help me out.

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Call MIKE.(ceptor)

If you fellas need something special for pulling the sleeve let me know.

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50 bucks gets you a map/oxygen torch at the home depot.

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sd what are you trying to do with the weld beads, I can probably help you out

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sd what are you trying to do with the weld beads, I can probably help you out
Jason, sorry for the delay. Had a few other projects take priority in the past few weeks, namely my wedding in 2 weeks.

Anyway, I'm attempting something like this:

http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=107602

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80014



Weld a bead down the inside of the sleeve, apparently shrinks and subsequently alleviates pressure on the sleeve.

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ive got a welder adn can run the beads

you just want the sleeves out the block wont be a runner again right

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ive got a welder adn can run the beads

you just want the sleeves out the block wont be a runner again right
Bingo, I'll shoot you a PM in a few weeks to see what your schedule looks like!

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