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And here we go again with gun issues

just heard on radio all these politician are crying for tougher gun laws and one politician aka from NY is drafting a bill to make it illegal to carry a loaded weapon within 1000 ft of a federal politician

Seriously it takes the killing of a judge and a shot congresswomen for everyone to jump the band wagon

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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just heard on radio all these politician are crying for tougher gun laws and one politician aka from NY is drafting a bill to make it illegal to carry a loaded weapon within 1000 ft of a federal politician

Seriously it takes the killing of a judge and a shot congresswomen for everyone to jump the band wagon
That's cool, just create a webpage or app that lets me know the location of every federal politician at all times so I can stay away from them

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That's cool, just create a webpage or app that lets me know the location of every federal politician at all times so I can stay away from them
i was thinking the same thing.. how you gonna know where they are?

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everything/this is so reactive -> emotionally based. the more important a decision is, the more important that it be made more rationally and less emotionally based.

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i was thinking the same thing.. how you gonna know where they are?
We are gonna be paying for body guards for all of them, so just look for the people with 6 shifty eyed additional people encircling them.

Oh wait, thats not gonna work, rappers and drug lords do that too.

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What we need to do:

-Create a council to do an in depth examination into what caused the shooting.

-In the mean time we need to set up a new organization to protect the councilmen and women, we can call it the CSA Council Security Administration. This org. of course will have complete freedom to trounce any constitutional right anyone may think they have. A few trillion dollars should get this group up and running.

-We also need to implement an ID systems that tracks free citizens every move. Be it online, on water, or above ground. We need to create this for the safety of our citizens and children!

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-We also need to implement an ID systems that tracks free citizens every move. Be it online, on water, or above ground. We need to create this for the safety of our citizens and children!
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Good thing to keep in mind if you're ever in a CCW state and trying to be a hero. Unless you have on your tights and cape someone else might mistake you for the bad guy and blow your brains out.
Luckily i always have my cape and tights on under my trench coat.




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Good thing to keep in mind if you're ever in a CCW state and trying to be a hero. Unless you have on your tights and cape someone else might mistake you for the bad guy and blow your brains out.
Why was someone holding the killers gun? What is Also to stop cops from killing an innocent person? I have read far more stories of cops misusing there gun rather than ccw holders.

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ridiculous. maybe they should revise that bill to include small children and old people.

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Why was someone holding the killers gun? What is Also to stop cops from killing an innocent person? I have read far more stories of cops misusing there gun rather than ccw holders.
Guy wrestled the gun out of the nutball's hand and just happened to be holding it when the CCW guy came on the scene. See dead people, hear screaming, see guy with gun...hard not to connect the dots.

Regarding your comment about police shooting more innocent people than Average Joe Rambo? That logic is flawed.

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Guy wrestled the gun out of the nutball's hand and just happened to be holding it when the CCW guy came on the scene. See dead people, hear screaming, see guy with gun...hard not to connect the dots.

Regarding your comment about police shooting more innocent people than Average Joe Rambo? That logic is flawed.
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How many violent situations do you suppose cops face in a given year versus Suburban Cowboys? You're the last person I should have to explain statistics to. The statistics are obvious. The logic is flawed.


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If we're comparing error rates, it doesn't really matter if they do it more often. But I see your point on just numbers overall. Cops get more opportunities to fuck it up than Joe Permitholder.

It is worth noting that Joe Permitholder DIDN'T fuck it up in this case. "almost" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

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Also: When we legalize hand grenades - I'm moving to Canada!
They have stick with nails in them up there. They are very dangerous and can kill people. We should out law all sticks and nails!

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Not a wish of mine, but that is the knee jerk reaction people are displaying. I was trying to point out how out of hand some people can get as a result of horrible events.

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what we need to do:

-create a council to do an in depth examination into what caused the shooting.

-in the mean time we need to set up a new organization to protect the councilmen and women, we can call it the csa council security administration. This org. Of course will have complete freedom to trounce any constitutional right anyone may think they have. A few trillion dollars should get this group up and running.

-we also need to implement an id systems that tracks free citizens every move. Be it online, on water, or above ground. We need to create this for the safety of our citizens and children!
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Leave it to the Democrats to drag the "Fairness Doctorine" back into the ring. It's designed to muzzle conservative radio becuase the Liberals have never been successful in radio. Ironic that the Liberals have 4 main publically broadcasted ...TV channels and the Conservatives have ONE channel that you have to pay to get via cable or satellite. yet they feel things are not "Fair". Liberals are scared because their thought process and methodlogy are not financially sustainable.

This freak had a skull sitting on orange peels in his backyard. The preliminary info I have read said he is left wing according to fellow classmates. That would mean he may have shot the congresswomen for being too moderate! (she is a blue-dog Dem) The Dem's better watch out of their rhetoric. Regardless this guy is insane so party affiliation is not really the issue.

We are fortunate that he did not use his car to run into the crowd THEN get out shooting.
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Here's a question for you...let's presume this maniac in Arizona didn't have access to a gun but he was absolutely determined to take out the Congresswoman and any supporters he could and he attacked the crowd swinging a machete that he sharpened to a razors edge in his home and concealed in the leg of his pants (who's going to suspect someone with a limp?). Do you think the death toll of his madness would have been any less? I personally think it could have been more!
Point being...A:Guns don't kill people, people do and...B:A madman determined to kill will find a way.
In a free society there are risks. One of those risks is dealing with deranged individuals who have the same rights as everyone. Because he acts out his insanity should we reduce everyones rights to prevent another incident perpetrated by a madman that may never come?
Thankfully, the NRA still has enough clout to stop the more ridiculous of the knee jerk reactions towards firearms ....but for how long?

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Corrected that for you. Neither side has a fucking clue.

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Here's a question for you...let's presume this maniac in Arizona didn't have access to a gun but he was absolutely determined to take out the Congresswoman and any supporters he could and he attacked the crowd swinging a machete that he sharpened to a razors edge in his home and concealed in the leg of his pants (who's going to suspect someone with a limp?). Do you think the death toll of his madness would have been any less? I personally think it could have been more!
Wound 18 and kill 6 in the same period of time with a big knife? Just getting within arm's reach of that many people after you stabbed the first person would be difficult. Nevermind glancing blows when people would naturally put up hands etc. to defend themselves. It would probably take a few attempts (after the first one) to get lethal penetration.

Doing that kind of damage without a gun/explosive/chemical would be pretty difficult in my estimation.

I agree that you can't stop crazy. I disagree that we have to keep giving crazy such efficient tools.

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You know what, with stricter gun control there is NO WAY this guy could have gotten his hands on a gun.






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It's just such nonsense. I honestly think that the reaction to this situation could be the final nail in the coffin of the uber progressive left. This shit is just nuts.

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