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Track Bike R6 or Semi-Track R1?

First of all GD!!! What to do? I have a 2009 YZF-R1 mildly moded and I want to start track racing… you know go for gold (I mean broke)… Some people in the pits at RA this weekend told me don’t track the R1 go with something smaller…

So, I found a 2006 YZF-R6 that is track ready… with some goodies the price is just about right for me to throw down the cash but not quite.


I need some insight… Full titanium exhaust, some tuning, clutch mod, wire the bitch up and rock the R1… or get another bike (R6) all together and go PRO (damn, I would have to lose 10-15 lbs., There goes the before bed cookies)…

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Sell the R1 and buy a FULLY built R6 race bike (suspension, engine, bodywork etc)... If you're gonna go racing (not trackdays) than do it right, lots of AMA Spec R6's out there right now with tons of spares.. OR buy a GSXR fully set up from Vesrah!

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Wow... I won't ride a GSX-R unless some one pays me!!!
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well maybe if you win some races you can get some contingency money from suzuki, if you want to lose go ahead and ride a yamaha.






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I wonder if Graves has some bikes for sale???? I would love to build my own...
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Sell the R1 and buy a FULLY built R6 race bike (suspension, engine, bodywork etc)... If you're gonna go racing (not trackdays) than do it right, lots of AMA Spec R6's out there right now with tons of spares.. OR buy a GSXR fully set up from Vesrah!
if youre gonna get into it skip the engine work IMHO
brakes and suspension are priority 1
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well maybe if you win some races you can get some contingency money from suzuki, if you want to lose go ahead and ride a yamaha.






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Sell the R1 and buy a FULLY built .. OR buy a GSXR fully set up from Vesrah!
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if youre gonna get into it skip the engine work IMHO
brakes and suspension are priority 1
i assume track plastic is already a given on a track bike
So going racing (CCS, ASRA, AMA) with NO enging work... Really ? (assuming he is going full out racing of course)

I agree that suspension, brakes are a priority but so is engine work if he plans to run anywhere near the front (mid pack even) hell even a mild build would be beneficial.

For my case, I only do track days, I would LOVE to buy a bike with a stock motor but all the other goodies (suspension, brakes, rearsets, clipons.. basically everything but the motor)

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i run midpack ccs with stock motor/suspension on my 600...at least so far, only 1 race weekend to date

when he gets to the expert level then id say go for it with the motor within the rules
obviously what can be done is all dictated by the rules n such, and theres the looming threat of a teardown from a guy on a green bike these days

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i run midpack ccs with stock motor/suspension on my 600...at least so far, only 1 race weekend to date

when he gets to the expert level then id say go for it with the motor within the rules
obviously what can be done is all dictated by the rules n such, and theres the looming threat of a teardown from a guy on a green bike these days
Would you say the motor/suspension is holding you back a bit ? The suspension/motors on todays bikes are phenomenal and will certainly get the job done and done well (even better with Ohlins/Penske etc.). Good on you for your 1st race weekend, best of luck to ya!

LOL... those damn green bikes !!!

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race and track cost me about the same for a weekend, lots less seat time though for the race

i dunno if its suspension or tires, i could very likely use a real shock instead of the stock unit, would it help though... maybe, but it certainly wouldnt hurt

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unless you're heading to daytona to win races, no AM racer needs motor work.

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unless you're heading to daytona to win races, no AM racer needs motor work.
Dont listen to them Harold... DO IT DO IT!!! FULL WSS Spec build forget the rules !

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So, no one is saying work the r1 on the track or not...
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Dont listen to them Harold... DO IT DO IT!!! FULL WSS Spec build forget the rules !
screw it hes right, while youre at it go 2mm over

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So, no one is saying work the r1 on the track or not...
are you talking about going racing or a full track day weapon ?

I would say the R1 might be overkill but perhaps others with more experience can chime in.

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WTF!!! really!!! so, how about a link to the rules for each classification?
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I know this machine handles like a R6 maybe a bit better... Just from my experience..
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WTF!!! really!!! so, how about a link to the rules for each classification?
Seriously?! If you're this lazy you're never going to win a race!
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lol... Thats good i like that...

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I owned a 2007 R1 and had it on the track. It was a gigantic piece of shit. Now granted its no 2009, but the 2007 was a pig and the 2009 and up is even bigger and heavier. And no fricken way that bike handles like an R6.

EDIT: I've owned both, R6 and R1.

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It's the center of gravity, rigidness, and balance of the bike... I have been on the R6 models 2005 and a 2009 and yes they are light and you can man handle them but i think the word "squirrelly" is how i best describe them...
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Shit... IDK!!! i need some solid advice... So maybe a track day or two with good riders to tell me there thoughts?
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Do what you want. Your skill is going to make the biggest impact on how well you do. There may be less competition in the heavyweight class in amateur vs middleweight.

You need to get out and do some track days and see how you feel.

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