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B-17 Crashed in Oswego

Dammit...great to hear that everyone made it out of the aircraft ok. Hopefully they can salvage the plane. Not too many of them in flying condition anymore.

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ahh man, that sucks about the plane. I too am happy all are ok, but that is a lost piece of american history

also, with in the next decade I think we'll be hard to find any remaining ww2 vets. God bless them.

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Thank God everyone is ok!

Hope the plane can be made flyable again.

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I'm sure someone will salvage it. There's a B-25 Mitchell that flies around here too. Man you can hear those WWII planes from miles away...they have such a distinct sound.

No wonder all the hot rods came out in the 50s...all those dudes, 17-19 years old, strapping in to 1500 hp, v-12 engined flying muscle car like the P-51.

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I want to say there are only 1 or 2 still flying. Waiting for details. The only one I can think of was flown by a group called the Confederate Air Force if I recall right.

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Yeah the Confederate Fortress is one of them, but there are more than that. The ME-109 is down to like one or two left flying, YAK-5s are the same way, but a few more of them left.

They brought a bunch of the 17s out of retirement to film "Memphis Belle"...and they lost one of them on take off during filming of that too.

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sucks big time. Those things are so rare. I got to take an inside tour in either the b17 or b25 at an air show. awesome planes.


I remember wttw doing a ride in one from one of the airports around here.
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No wonder all the hot rods came out in the 50s...all those dudes, 17-19 years old, strapping in to 1500 hp, v-12 engined flying muscle car like the P-51.
oh man, I love the mustang. Sexy ass plane.

I saw this story on the news and it made me a little sad. I have seen that B-17 more than once at airshows around here. We lost another piece of history.

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P51s doing flybys down the runway and take offs at Oshkosh airshow.

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what a shame
so help me if that pilot was texting and crashed he should lose his license!

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oh man, I love the mustang. Sexy ass plane.
Yeah I'm convinced that all the lines on those 50s hot rods were rooted in those planes...the Spitfire and P-51. Just so damn cool.

I always liked the P-40 Warhawk too.

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what a shame
so help me if that pilot was texting and crashed he should lose his license!
reading fail...


the pilot reported a fire on board, turned around trying to make it back to teh airport but couldnt make it and put it down in a cornfield

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the pilot reported a fire on board, turned around trying to make it back to teh airport but couldnt make it and put it down in a cornfield
PROOF!
right before it went down. Skip through the images and you can see it on fire
http://dailyherald.com/article/20110...15/photos/EP1/
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Man you can hear those WWII planes from miles away...they have such a distinct sound.
Much like the C-130. I can tell that behemoth is taking off without even looking up. And it's a sound that totally matches it; you look at that thing and wonder how it doesn't just fall out of the sky.
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the pilot reported a fire on board, turned around trying to make it back to teh airport but couldnt make it and put it down in a cornfield
oh fantastic - I was sooo hoping he wasnt texting up in the sky! I hope you pick up my sarcasm because Im laying it on pretty thick.

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Man, what a loss. Every year they have the B-17 that flies into Lewis. You can take walk through tours or go for a ride ($1200 for 20 min I think). Breaks my heart. Hopefully they should be able to salvage the engines and maybe some other airframe bits.

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PROOF!
right before it went down. Skip through the images and you can see it on fire
http://dailyherald.com/article/20110...15/photos/EP1/
man that first pic of it on its wheels is especially sad

not one peice of that plane will be left behind though and anything usable will go to another aircraft's effort

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There aren't many of these old planes left. Those that do exist, most can't fly, they can't get the parts.

P51's do rock! They have so much power that if you're flying along at slow speed and slam the throttles forward, the amount of torque it produces will roll the plane!

Saw it almost happen at Lewis in Lockport one day. Dumb ass cut the P51 off in the pattern, he hit the power to go around, and it started to roll.

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There are less than 10 flying B 17's worldwide. Today's loss was tragic and very little of the plane is salvagable. The fire consumed much of it. I am also thankful that no one was injured but the loss of the plane was devastating.
The CAF plane, the one that flies out of Oshkosh (named "Aluminum Overcast") and another B 17 that was featured on Chicago Tonight on channel 11 just last week are about all that are left in the USA now.
I was on board (on the ground) the one that crashed today several years ago at an airshow. I've also walked through the CAF plane and the one in Oshkosh. There was also a B 24 at the airshow in Dupage several years ago.
The Air Classics museum that used to be at Dupage and is now in Aurora has a B 25 that I've been on board. Warbirds are my second love behind only motorcycles...and you're right...nothing sounds like a warbird...There was a display at the Peoria airport when I was there for the vintage races a few years back...I heard a plane approaching the airport as it flew over the PMC track and said to my wife that it had to be a B 17...sure enough...in a few seconds a B 17 flew over us on it's approach to the Peoria airport. That completely made my day ...AND I was competing in a motorcycle race that day!!!
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yea not think that plane just met with its retirement

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There's a small but growing business of manufacturing new parts for the old planes. Many of the currently "flying" planes are counted as 100% original (or thereabouts)...many more are refurbished or simply rebuilt using new fabrication.

I'm with you Jim, it goes motorcycles and warplanes for me too...my bedroom as a kid was covered in warplanes

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there are a lot pf parts though that cannot be reproduced, for instance the bulkhead in a p-51 that was behind the pilot, the tooling simply doesnt exist to make it and its quite complicated

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I understand that, but what 50% of the old B-29 on Greenland was replaced with new parts before the ill-fated attempt to fly it off the ice?

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Looks like the pilot did a good job of putting the plane down in that cornfield. Shame they couldn't put out the fire in time....


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A coworker of mine has a ton of photos up on facebook as the B landed basically in his back yard: http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set...915.1478175324


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