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First Time Rider's Essentials?

So I've decided I'm going to buy most of the gear I need to ride BEFORE I buy my bike. That process is going to take a lot longer, so I might as well get one bird hit while I wait.

What are the absolute essentials for a starting rider? I know a helmet is necessary, as well as some form of heavy jacket and gloves, but what else? I would think a secondary helmet would be important, as well as storage for said helmet.

Again, the question is: What do starting riders ABSOLUTELY NEED starting off?

So far, we've got:
License
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Mesh Summer Jacket
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Again, the question is: What do starting riders ABSOLUTELY NEED starting off?
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Helmet (doesn't have to be $500, the $100 are just fine to start with)
Jacket, preferably leather
Gloves - gauntlet, leather
Riding Boots

This is sort of the standard "full gear" set up. You can get by with regular work boots if $$ is an issue.

www.motorcyclegear.com is a fantastic place to start for good quality and even better prices. Check them out, top notch. The closeout section can be particularly useful.

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a helmet that fits is far more important than an expensive helmet
dont worry about having a spare helmet, if you crash and need a new one deal with it then, as for having it for a passenger... wait on passengers till you have some experience.

for the jacket, it needs to be a motorcycle specific jacket not just a heavy one. denim doesnt protect for shit but is considered a heavy material, riding specific jackets also have armor in typical impact places like the elbows, shoulders, and along the back.

riding specific pants are a good idea(armor in the knees

gauntlet gloves that cover the wrist

riding specific boots are optimal but a heavy workboot that had the leather go above the ankle will do. you dont need steel toes, they wont really help anyways
workboots tend to be bulky and could interfere with controls operation.

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Helmet (doesn't have to be $500, the $100 are just fine to start with)
Jacket, preferably leather
Gloves - gauntlet, leather
Riding Boots

This is sort of the standard "full gear" set up. You can get by with regular work boots if $$ is an issue.

www.motorcyclegear.com is a fantastic place to start for good quality and even better prices. Check them out, top notch. The closeout section can be particularly useful.
I'd add pants to the list, not many wear them outside of the track, but they saved my skin literarly.

Also, check sportbiketrackgear.com for good prices as well.

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+1 to what has already been suggested.

Not trying to imply anything here, but I'd add good health insurance coverage without any motorcycle exlcusions to any new rider's list of must haves.
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a helmet that fits is far more important than an expensive helmet
Expanding on this one: stop in and see Chicago Performance. A properly fit helmet will seem 1 size to small to most people.

An improperly fit helmet, may lift, or even slide off in an accident.

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Expanding on this one: stop in and see Chicago Performance. A properly fit helmet will seem 1 size to small to most people.

An improperly fit helmet, may lift, or even slide off in an accident.

Right .... or give you a concussion, exactly what you are trying to avoid !

Boots ( if not riding specific ) need to be over the ankle bone.

And License or no ..... take the MSF course, almost free and FUN !

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a helmet that fits is far more important than an expensive helmet
dont worry about having a spare helmet, if you crash and need a new one deal with it then, as for having it for a passenger... wait on passengers till you have some experience.

for the jacket, it needs to be a motorcycle specific jacket not just a heavy one. denim doesnt protect for shit but is considered a heavy material, riding specific jackets also have armor in typical impact places like the elbows, shoulders, and along the back.

riding specific pants are a good idea(armor in the knees

gauntlet gloves that cover the wrist

riding specific boots are optimal but a heavy workboot that had the leather go above the ankle will do. you dont need steel toes, they wont really help anyways
workboots tend to be bulky and could interfere with controls operation.
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you may want a "mesh"jacket for the summer so you have protection without cooking yourself, and its never too hot to wear gloves

good move collecting gear before you get a bike so you're ready when you do get one

try shopping used gear on the 4 sale forum here, lots of good quality stuff goes for cheap
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Everyone has covered it pretty well. I would reinforce a couple of things...Take the MSF course and get the proper endorsement on your license and have that in hand when you get your bike. There are tricks to getting into the courses that are listed as full...usually if you show up early, get your name on the standby list and hang out you'll end up getting in the course. Rainy days are almost a guarantee that standbys will get in and there's no time better to learn to ride than when it's raining! Sooner or later you're going to have to deal with riding in the rain...might as well be when being instructed by trained pros!
Shop around for good motorcycle insurance. I've always done much better with independant brokers who specialize in motorcycle insurance but there are a couple of agents on the CLSB site that will do their best for you too.
Like the earlier post said...make sure your medical insurance covers you while riding.
AND...a properly fitting helmet will initially feel like it's too small...and the basic gear list of helmet, leather jacket, gloves and boots is fine...some advocate pants and they're a good idea but you don't need to spend a bundle on them...check into abrasion resistant riding jeans with kevlar lining...cheaper than leather or synthetic gear and provides adequate protection.
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having the right sizing is key. educate yourself on how protective gear is supposed to fit. i made a mistake when i made my first gear purchases and it was a costly lesson. in one word snug. actually i would say go very snug.

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On the insurance note I would also suggest getting AFLAC. If you go down and can't work for a minute they send checks to you so you can keep your roof while you mend. And an alternative to pants is the shin guards from Icon. They also cover the knees and have saved mine more than once.
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Edited first post to show what's been suggested so far. Maybe this thread could be stickied for other curious newbies.

So what's rain gear? Everyone kept telling me to take a MRP class during a rainy day and to bring rain gear, but no one's actually specified what it is.
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"Rain Gear" is simply a rain suit, usually a two piece....like this one:

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/street..._rainsuit.html

You don't have to spend a lot of money on one, and frankly while you're learning probably don't need one. Most people only carry one with them on day or weekend trips...but for those applications they're a must have.

My advice, stay the heck out of the rain while you're learning to ride the bike

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So what's rain gear? Everyone kept telling me to take a MRP class during a rainy day and to bring rain gear, but no one's actually specified what it is.
Here is an example, but I prefer a 2 piece suit.

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fuck that shit. those people are just pissed it rained during thier class. misery loves company. like people telling other people to do trackdays in the rain cus they got fucked into one. okay cool im sure ill learn a shit ton!! .....then...awh fuck i wrecked my shit

whats rain gear? come on bro u serious? thought u had an uncanny ability of not talking out your butt ever??

rain gear=gear you wear in the rain. ie waterproof shit

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Don't get too carried away with all of this. Get yourself some over the ankle shoes, a decent inexpensive jacket, helmet and gauntlet gloves and go enjoy. You can add the rest as you go.

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Don't get too carried away with all of this. Get yourself some over the ankle shoes, a decent inexpensive jacket, helmet and gauntlet gloves and go enjoy. You can add the rest as you go.
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Keep very basic tools in whatever trunk space you may have.
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So I've decided I'm going to buy most of the gear I need to ride BEFORE I buy my bike. That process is going to take a lot longer, so I might as well get one bird hit while I wait.

What are the absolute essentials for a starting rider? I know a helmet is necessary, as well as some form of heavy jacket and gloves, but what else? I would think a secondary helmet would be important, as well as storage for said helmet.

Again, the question is: What do starting riders ABSOLUTELY NEED starting off?

So far, we've got:
License
Health Insurance with no motorcycle exclusions
Motorcycle Insurance (AFLAC?)
Riding Boots
Snug Helmet
Leather/Armored Jacket
Mesh Summer Jacket
Leather Gauntlets that cover the wrist
Abrasion-resistant Riding Jeans w/ Kevlar lining or Shin Guards
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Aflac is personal insurance and only provides you with income if you are injured and can't go to work. It's a supplemental insurance that covers things that the other carriers don't. You still would need regular insurance like State Farm.
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fuck that shit. those people are just pissed it rained during thier class. misery loves company. like people telling other people to do trackdays in the rain cus they got fucked into one. okay cool im sure ill learn a shit ton!! .....then...awh fuck i wrecked my shit

whats rain gear? come on bro u serious? thought u had an uncanny ability of not talking out your butt ever??

rain gear=gear you wear in the rain. ie waterproof shit
I meant what material is it made of, not what it is. I should have been more specific.

I've decided upon what I'm getting.
Leather jacket with back armor
shin/knee guards
My current work boots
1 tool set
A set of common spares (chain, tire, etc)
Either a rear trunk or side satchels.

... My parents' health insurance policies cover me even while on motorcycles, so I'll wait on getting my own until I can actually afford it. Overall, I expect to spend maybe $400-500 on everything. After all is said and done, I just need to wait until next week when I get my license and it's off to the races. Thanks, all.
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Leather, Leather and more leather. Even the cheapest leather motorcycle jacket (Firstgear from newenough $149) which I bought in 2003 will outperform the most expensive textile or mesh jacket (aerostich) Don't go stuck on buying brand names, you are paying for the label. I have also bought a perforated leather jacket too. Oxtar boots are just as good for street or track duty as Alpinestar at half the price. Years ago I made the mistake of buying Held gloves ($200) most uncomfortable gloves I have ever worn. You can get high quality gloves for @$50, I had a pair (firstgear) that lasted 7 years. Point is you can get high quality gear for a lot less coin if you shop around and are not a label victim. Spend the money you saved on gas and tires, do a track day or two, BUT DON'T take the skills you learn on the track and think they translate to street riding, they don't! Track is a nice safe place, no cagers, no gravel in the corners, no animals to deal with, everyone on the same page. The first time you think the street is your track, maybe your last. Good luck.

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