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Any welders here?

Specifically tig welders?
I just stepped up from my scratch start tig to one with a foot pedal and does AC/DC. Looking to see if there is anyone local that could give me a few tips as I have never done aluminum or used a foot pedal.

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What tungsten do you use? That is a nice welder. I'm sticking with 110v since I don't have a 220v in the garage.
You do it currently or you have? Pics of beads? Tips?
I'm still having trouble getting a straight bead going in a circle. Straight is no problem.

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What tungsten do you use? That is a nice welder. I'm sticking with 110v since I don't have a 220v in the garage.
You do it currently or you have? Pics of beads? Tips?
I'm still having trouble getting a straight bead going in a circle. Straight is no problem.
My machine is not an inverter so it requires 220, if you have a smaller inverter machine 110 is no problem. Its not my profession but I still do weld. Aluminum is tricky, watch for it when it starts looking shiny and seems to reflect more light that's when it is starting to pool. I usually use the 100% pure Green tungsten but I have also tried it with the Lanthanated tungsten's as someone told me they would work with aluminum. I would say I still prefer the pure tungsten for aluminum.

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Mine should be in next week, if you are free would you mind showing me a few things?
It will be 110v, with the eastwood tig welder, using reg tungsten and 100% argon.

I'm going to try to find some scrap aluminum and I need to pick up more filler rod.
Do you use a gas lens?

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Perfect, much appreciated!

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I've watched a TON of his videos.

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It shows up tomorrow. I'm thinking about taking wednesday off to weld all day long lol

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Where can I get some pieces of aluminum locally that is thicker than 18g or round stock if I want to build something?
Only have 15min of aluminum welding under my belt here is what I did this weekend.




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it doesnt matter for practicing but stainless will need to be back purged with shielding gas when you are doing anything for real. (from your other WTB thread)

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and you can get 1" x ~1/8" x several foot long strips of AL at like Home Depot.

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running beads is relatively easy, work on that crack you have on your test peice, and start working on joints...
i suck at welding aluminum because i get no practice at it, but i know the technical side of it fairly well

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it doesnt matter for practicing but stainless will need to be back purged with shielding gas when you are doing anything for real. (from your other WTB thread)
Well anything that is going to hold a good amount of weight such as a turbo manifold should be back purged but for things that won't hold a lot of weight it's not needed.
I still need to get a Y fitting and Y off my regulator so I can back purge if I ever need to.
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and you can get 1" x ~1/8" x several foot long strips of AL at like Home Depot.
I seen the strips, but I rather have a large plate so I can just start going one row of beads to another. I have a piece but it's really thick and would need 250+ amps to do.

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I only weld for fun when I have free time. Buy a piece of aluminum from Metal Supermarkets in Villa Park. 630-516-0537. Here is a piece of aluminum I kept making passes on. I have a good welder but the problem is I don't have good cleaning supplies and materials.
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^^Thank you sir, that is exactly what I'm looking for and looking to do. What welder do you have and how much was that plate?
My cleaning supplies consist of a spray bottle with acetone($5), new shop rags ($3) and a pack of scotch brite pads that you clean the dishs with ($3) nothing special needed thus far.

Edit: And a stainless steel wire brush.

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When you can Tig the bottom of two soda cans together you have made it to the dark side of welding!!! That was my final in school and with a 15K machine..
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^^Thank you sir, that is exactly what I'm looking for and looking to do. What welder do you have and how much was that plate?
My cleaning supplies consist of a spray bottle with acetone($5), new shop rags ($3) and a pack of scotch brite pads that you clean the dishs with ($3) nothing special needed thus far.

Edit: And a stainless steel wire brush.
I own a Miller Syncrowave 200. It's a cool machine and will do more than I could ever need. Like I said, I only get to mess around with it once in a while because of my work schedule. Tig welding is a lot of fun, I wish I had more time to play with it.
That is just a small piece of the aluminum plate I bought. I cut the piece of aluminum into three pieces. It cost me $15 but was well worth it my opinion. I could turn that piece over and weld the other side. Aluminum is awesome to practice on because you can keep making passes over and over. Every other bead will look dull just because of the Argon. I bought that piece from Metal Supermarkets in Elk Grove, but the guy told me that their big warehouse with more materials is in Villa Park.

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I like this thread, good topic. I need to learn to use the mig I bought. Any tips are always appreciated




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When you can Tig the bottom of two soda cans together you have made it to the dark side of welding!!! That was my final in school and with a 15K machine..
I've seen people do that. Is it super hard? Do you use like 30amps if that?
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I own a Miller Syncrowave 200. It's a cool machine and will do more than I could ever need. Like I said, I only get to mess around with it once in a while because of my work schedule. Tig welding is a lot of fun, I wish I had more time to play with it.
That is just a small piece of the aluminum plate I bought. I cut the piece of aluminum into three pieces. It cost me $15 but was well worth it my opinion. I could turn that piece over and weld the other side. Aluminum is awesome to practice on because you can keep making passes over and over. Every other bead will look dull just because of the Argon. I bought that piece from Metal Supermarkets in Elk Grove, but the guy told me that their big warehouse with more materials is in Villa Park.
That is a good machine from what I have read. I ordered the eastwood tig welder and it showed up broken so I sent it back and picked up the miller diversion 180. Thus far I LOVE it.
I started with a harbor freight arc/stick that I converted to tig. It's in the classified section and I'm glad I started there to learn how to do it and see if I liked it before I made the big jump.
Do you use a gas lens? I have the stuff to do it, but never tried it yet. I have heard great things about using one. I'm still looking around for a small project I can build myself.

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I like this thread, good topic. I need to learn to use the mig I bought. Any tips are always appreciated
What do you have? I started with a harbor freight flux welder I got used for $80. Then I upgraded to a lincoln 145 weldpak from home depot. What an AWESOME mig welder. I loved it. However I started tig and the mig just collected dust and I just sold it.
When you mig you need to listen, you want it to sound like bacon is sizzling in a frying pan. Keep the stick out short, less than 1/2" (IIRC) and do cursive "U" or "e" shapes. That is how I got the best welds.



Ugh, I can't even weld with the new welder it's soooo damn hot in the garage!

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I've seen people do that. Is it super hard? Do you use like 30amps if that?

That is a good machine from what I have read. I ordered the eastwood tig welder and it showed up broken so I sent it back and picked up the miller diversion 180. Thus far I LOVE it.
I started with a harbor freight arc/stick that I converted to tig. It's in the classified section and I'm glad I started there to learn how to do it and see if I liked it before I made the big jump.
Do you use a gas lens? I have the stuff to do it, but never tried it yet. I have heard great things about using one. I'm still looking around for a small project I can build myself.


What do you have? I started with a harbor freight flux welder I got used for $80. Then I upgraded to a lincoln 145 weldpak from home depot. What an AWESOME mig welder. I loved it. However I started tig and the mig just collected dust and I just sold it.
When you mig you need to listen, you want it to sound like bacon is sizzling in a frying pan. Keep the stick out short, less than 1/2" (IIRC) and do cursive "U" or "e" shapes. That is how I got the best welds.



Ugh, I can't even weld with the new welder it's soooo damn hot in the garage!



Is this machine water cooled? Does it have hi frequency for the A/C? I don't do any real cleaning when I weld. Just scratch it down with a stainless brush. Almost all of my welding is done on cylinder head castings. Repairing cracks. My welds don't need to look pretty........much of the weld is ground off after the repair. They do, however, need to be watertight and hold 60 psi. If all of that is good we remachine the counterbores and install new seat inserts.

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The torch is air cooled, it says it has a HF start.
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I went to the metal supermarket but they are closed on Saturday. And the phone would never be answered just rings forever. I ended up just buying an aluminum plate on ebay for bead practice.
I did some mild steel and it looks like crap. It seems that aluminum is by far the easiest to weld. I need to setup a nice table to weld on though. I have been standing over my vice welding and using the foot pedal, it's not really easy. I made a table and bolted it to the wall but it's a little too high. Once I get a good height size table or a chain that lifts up and down (since my craftsman crapped out on me) I'm sure I will be better.
I still need to setup back purging for SS. Do you get better looking welds when back purging? I seem to get either really flat >>>>>>> welds on Stainless or if I use way less heat I get too cold of welds. Can't find the magic touch on it. Also using 3/32 filler. I'm going to step back down to 1/16th as I think it will be easier to weld with.

I did some playing around with some SS tonight and I think I got a good hang of fusion welding with no filler. I made a lot of small beads but I'm not sure my phone would get a great pic so I made a bigger version. What do you think?


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Anyone here know of any classes I can take? Harper has nothing that fits my schedule. Wondering if anyone has a workshop class for a few hours or something else I can do.

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just practice.

if you need something to do because you're bored, build be a cart for my welder + bottle.

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You can do a welding class at pretty much any junior college but they are typically 6 week courses 2 or 3 times a week. I've thought about it a few times.
I wanted to say in district. Harpers prices for in district are $102.50 per credit hour and $359.50 for out of district. So I'm thinking any other junior college is the same. They have classes on T/Th nights, but that doesn't work for me. The M/W class is during the day and I have work.


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I built one for myself. It cost me way more money than it would have to just of bought one from harbor frieght.

I found out last night that I can weld a shit ton better left handed. Which is super odd.

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I wanted to say in district. Harpers prices for in district are $102.50 per credit hour and $359.50 for out of district. So I'm thinking any other junior college is the same. They have classes on T/Th nights, but that doesn't work for me. The M/W class is during the day and I have work.



I built one for myself. It cost me way more money than it would have to just of bought one from harbor frieght.

I found out last night that I can weld a shit ton better left handed. Which is super odd.

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when you are welding, you can push the puddle or pull away from the puddle.Which are two different ways of welding. And that might be what you are doing with your left hand.
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I only weld for fun when I have free time. Buy a piece of aluminum from Metal Supermarkets in Villa Park. 630-516-0537. Here is a piece of aluminum I kept making passes on. I have a good welder but the problem is I don't have good cleaning supplies and materials.
Do you know of any other places? I'm not a huge fan of metal supermarket.

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