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Picking a small welder.

I have been toying with the idea of getting a small electric only welder for very light use. It would mostly be hobby stuff, with the biggest job most likely being welding exhaust pipe on a car. Sure I would prefer a MIG over a stick welder, but for something that I will be using VERY sparingly and

Here is what I have seen in the price range I am looking to be in. Comments on these units/suggestions on others?

Westward/Grainger 2WDP2


Item AC Stick Welder
Phase 1
Output Range (Amps) 50/70
Rated Output 50A @ 22V
Amps AC 50
Duty Cycle 20%
Input (Amps) 20
Input Voltage 115
OCV 42
Hz 60
Overall Height (In.) 8-1/4
Overall Width (In.) 7
Overall Depth (In.) 11-4/5
Features Portable, Lightweight, Allow 120V Input, Two-taps Current Control, Thermal Overload Protection
Application AC Stick Welding for Do It Yourself Maintenance and Repairs
Includes 6 Ft Power Cord, 115V, 15A Plug, 10 Ft Welding Cable With Electrode Holder, 6 Ft Earth Cable With Work Clamp, Chipping Hammer and 10 Electrodes

Firepower 1443G0402


Item Single Phase Arc Welder
Type AC Stick Welder
Series FP100
Rated Output 65A/27V @ 15%
Input Voltage 120
OCV 37
Hz 60
Overall Height (In.) 11-1/2
Overall Width (In.) 9
Overall Depth (In.) 13-1/4
Features 27 Lbs Weight, Uses Standard 115 VAC Household Supply, Infinite Amperage Adjustment, Thermostatic Heat Protection
Application Light Duty Arc Portable Arc Welding
Includes 6 Ft Welding Lead and Electrode Holder, 6 Ft Ground Cable and Work Clamp

Harbor Freight/Chicago Electric 98871


This flux welder is ideal for outdoor work since it doesn’t use an external shielding gas - the flux built into the wire shields the weld. Set-up is easy for gasless flux-cored welding on thicker steel. 120 volt flux welder allows you to weld material from 18 gauge to 1/2" thick.

Uses self-shielding flux-cored welding wire
No shielding gas necessary
Includes 2 lb. spool of flux-core wire, spare welding tip
Manual wire feed speed control
Thermal protection with warning light
Integrated carry handle
Input: 120 volts, 20 amps, single phase, 60 Hz
Duty Cycle: 45% @ 60 amps, 25% @ 80 amps
Wire capacity: 0.030"/0.035" flux core wire

Lincoln K2278



35-88 amps output.
Welds up to 1/8 in. mild steel.
Plugs into household 115V, 20 amp outlet.
Compact, portable, lightweight and easy to use.
Great for home repair and hobby projects on light gauge mild steel found around most households.
Base Unit Includes: Welding gun and cable assembly, work clamp and cable, 1 lb. spool of .035" Flux-cored wire, two additional .035 contact tips, welding handshield and chipping hammer/brush.
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i love my little lincoln welder, tips adn other aprts are easy to get, that may not be so with off brands...

youll be best off using a flux core wire rather than an actual MIG setup with a gas bottle because of how infrequently youll be using it

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pm matoo. he was a welding instructor for l.u. 93 plumbers.
im sure he'll help u

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Posted in your thread on jdmchicago

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how muc is your budget ? i need to get a welder... well.....want
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Check the pawn shops ? A friend of mine bought a HF welder and it has been working for a couple of years without a problem .
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Just come use mine. I have two clarkes and like them very much. The tips and other external parts are pretty standard from my experience.

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I vote for the little Lincoln. They seem to be one of the better choices for people who just need something little and easy and they actually work. When I was working maintenance we picked up something that looked like that Harbor Freight one you show and it completely sucked but I don't know that it was that exact unit. But the Lincoln that I bought back in 1995/96 is still around and kicking and has never let me down.

For reference I have the 220v version with the gas conversion and it's very nice for what I need. A good friend has the 110v version using flux core and although we both prefer to weld with mine when possible because you have a bit more power on tap and the gas shield produces a bit better results. But his is soo much more portable and works just about anywhere you go because it plugs in just about anywhere so I would suggest getting the 110v version or your needs.

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The lincoln 110v Mig is the best 110 mig out there. Nobody compares to them. You should also check out www.weldingweb.com (it's currently down at the moment)

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We have a 110v Lincoln at the shop that has seen very frequent use over the 10 years or so we have had it and has never had any problems. We have a really nice SnapOn 220v machine but 90% of the time we use the little Lincoln because its easier to move around and there's always a 110v outlet within a few feet. I don't know which model we have but it does have an aargon tank on it. For what you would probably be using it for one with flux core wire would be good enough. As with any tool, I would reccomend spending the extra money now for a quality machine. It will probably last you the rest of your life.
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^^While this is true that a good quality machine will last you a long long long long time if not forever it may be a good idea to start with something inexpensive like the harbor freight model. I say this because what if you end up not liking welding at all? Then your only out $100 and can easily sell it. It took me MONTHS to sell my lincoln mig welder and I had it $200 below retail and it was only used for a few spools of wire.

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if you want to try welding ask someone to try theirs or take a class on it, a class would be good anyways simply for the learning that would be very hard adn far slower on your own

welding is not for the feint of heart, its hot, smelly, and generally uncomfortable. you will get burned either by touching something thats screaming hot or from flying sparks

the difference in quality of weld between the HF and my lincoln pushing the same wire on the same material is huge as well, Ive used both and the hf welder had a much more "fragile" arc im not saying you cant get things done with a hf unit but its certainly not condusive to being efficient with it

im of the oppinion that if im gonna spend my money i want to buy a quality peice of equipment or tool

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if you want to try welding ask someone to try theirs or take a class on it, a class would be good anyways simply for the learning that would be very hard adn far slower on your own

welding is not for the feint of heart, its hot, smelly, and generally uncomfortable. you will get burned either by touching something thats screaming hot or from flying sparks

the difference in quality of weld between the HF and my lincoln pushing the same wire on the same material is huge as well, Ive used both and the hf welder had a much more "fragile" arc im not saying you cant get things done with a hf unit but its certainly not condusive to being efficient with it

im of the oppinion that if im gonna spend my money i want to buy a quality peice of equipment or tool
lol We have all burned ourselves a few times I'm sure. You forget the metal is hot or you touch it to see if it's still hot. Or accidently touch it. Happens all the time. Even to the experienced people. Even gloves that have seen some use shrink and get hot.
When doing stick welding and knocking off the slag that shit can go everywhere. Wear a hat under your helmet. I had a piece fly up and land in my hair once. If you want to try your hand at stick or tig you can use mine before you make a purchase.

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