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hey everybody,with advise from member STANIMAL i would like to post my problem here.i bought week ago 2011 triumph speed triple se(model 2010) with salvage title for fair price(i think) from auction without seeing bike.
Tank was damaged as well as levers,mirrors overall it wasnt look so bad
long story short after detailed inspection head cylinder brackets are broken and at this moment i lost interest in fixing this bike!
Trying to find it used but my question is:could it be welded or i need to find replacement for it?thanks for any advice and sorry for my englishPeter
will try to post pic but need more posts.

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I would send pictures to ceptor from here. He does head work.
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Do these tabs hold the cyl. down to the head or are they motor mounts?

If compression is not compromised motor will be fine.If they mount the motor I'd worry more about bent frame mounts.As a new part might not bolt in.

Are they part of the cover or the head ??WE Need photos

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do you plan on riding this bike on the street?
and have you looked into what it takes to get a salvage title cleared in IL?

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The tabs in question are motor mounts . They cracked closer to the head , but look like they can be welded .
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thanks guys,working on new posts right now so will post pic soon.

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Welding that cast oily stuff really sucks.

Not a job for anyone less than a full on pro.

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eek, what else got hit to break those mounts?

id venture a guess that you have more damage elsewhere that you havent found yet or cant really see

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What material are the cylinder heads made of? If I were you, I would take the motor out and take the motor with the broken mounts to a good welder. It appears to me like they can be welded back up. Now the big question is whether the frame or the frame mounts are bent and will match up to the motor mounts when you get the motor back. I say go for it, you got the bike so you might as well try it.

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theres a reason why copart got it to sell in the first place, easy to fix wrecks are usually bought straight from the ins co. by someone with an in
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What material are the cylinder heads made of? If I were you, I would take the motor out and take the motor with the broken mounts to a good welder. It appears to me like they can be welded back up. Now the big question is whether the frame or the frame mounts are bent and will match up to the motor mounts when you get the motor back. I say go for it, you got the bike so you might as well try it.
they are aluminum
I beleive it could be fixed by welding(not me)
however it brings up a couple issues concerning alignment and location of the mounts and bolt holes when the welding is done. as the weld cools it shrinks and will literally pull the mount out of position. to prevent that you need a jig that will mount the head and ears in position and hold it rigidly when welding, the frame and rest of the engine can be sort of used for this but that assumed that the frame is "straight", ill bet that its bent.

before you get much further, what are your eventual plans for this bike?
do you plan to get it titled and ride it on the street or will it be a track bike?

if you plan on titling it, you should really look into whats involved with getting a salvage title changed to a clear title in the state of illinois... its not easy

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thanks.
i plan to get it titled and ride it on street but first would like to fix it and goes from there.
other side looks good i also checked all frame-joints,there are no cracks but it still could be bended.
will i be able take engine by myself?-i dont think so
who can weld it guys?

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look into the hoops and paperwork for changing a salvage title in IL... its not easy by any means

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hey Jason,bike got salvage title/certification from other state,you mean its not easy to get clean title here(which i believe) or its not easy to get il salvage tile on it whatsoever?
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hey Jason,bike got salvage title/certification from other state,you mean its not easy to get clean title here(which i believe) or its not easy to get il salvage tile on it whatsoever?
regardless of where the salvage title comes from Illinois is not going to make it easy to change that salvage title to one that will allow you to register adn plate the bike(clear title)

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this is common knowledge, i hope you knew this before buying the bike
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On the plus side, I dig the look of the bike.
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maybe i will part it out
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thanks.
i plan to get it titled and ride it on street but first would like to fix it and goes from there.
other side looks good i also checked all frame-joints,there are no cracks but it still could be bended.
will i be able take engine by myself?-i dont think so
who can weld it guys?
You can't get it titled and ride it on the street in Illinois yourself. It has to be repaired by a licensed rebuilder. You need to have all the parts and receipts for everything. Then the licensed rebuilder must have it inspected by the state at an inspection station and if it passes, they will issue a rebuilt title. Your insurance may not cover a rebuilt title. So check with them as well.

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just spoke with the guy who bought bike for me from auction(they buying only salvage vehicles) and they got own licensed rebuilder and told me to not worry about getting title for it so i really dont know what to do?

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get the wallet ready then...

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get the wallet ready then...
but i can still fix it by myself he told me.
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yea theres nothing stopping you from fixing it yourself, you just may not be able to title it...

this is why im saying to look into what you need to do to title the bike, before you go sinking money into something that you wont be able to get what you want out of it...


ive read more than 1 story about thee auction places telling the buyer not to worry adn that its no big deal just to make sure they get the sale when reality turns to be quite different after the bike or whats left of it is delivered.

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Good luck with that.
can you weld it?
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can you weld it?
You got way bigger problems than that cracked head. Yes I could have it welded no problem, but I would always recommend taking off the head to do it instead of hack welding it while together. You probably have other issues anyways based on how hard a hit that bike took to do that kind of damage.

Your title will be your biggest problem though. No clean title, parts bike. Easy as that. To get a rebuilt title, you have to have a licensed rebuilder take it to the SS office with ALL receipts to rebuild WITH VIN #s included. No easy or cheap task.
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