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Help choosing Home Theater Reciever

My old Yamaha home theater reciever has finally bit the dust, and i figured i would pose the question to you folks, as im sure theres some audio-geeks on here that could answer the question:

What recievers for around 500 dollars are the best? I'm looking for HDMI switching for 3-4 devices, 5.1 is good enough for me -- im just looking for high quality and good sound: Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer?

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Don't do Onkyo. I bought the tx-sr608 and regret it. Features are nice but for 100w/channel for my system it seems more like 70. My Sony ES @125w pushed my speakers a lot easier.Sound is okay and great features but I'll probably be selling mine soon.
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Don't do Onkyo. I bought the tx-sr608 and regret it. Features are nice but for 100w/channel for my system it seems more like 70. My Sony ES @125w pushed my speakers a lot easier.Sound is okay and great features but I'll probably be selling mine soon.
My Onkyo 805 at 125watts seems to drive the speakers effortlessly. You can't just a whole lineup by one model.

I agree with Vcook though, that's a pretty bad ass receiver for that price.

IMHO though, any modern 5.1/7.1 receiver really needs 125+ watts so it has a little headroom when you're really pushing it...even if you aren't playing at reference levels. Any receiver I demo'd that was under 100 watts just didn't seem to have the dynamics of any receiver over 125 watts. Though, I'm not sure most people would even notice the difference...it's probably just me.

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Pioneer vsx-820 . Think the 821 is the new model if you cannot find the 820. Bought mine about 6 months ago and am very happy. It replaced a onkyo reciever that was 10 yrs old. Plenty of power and clean sound along with hdmi ports. + you will have plenty of cash left since it is not 500 bucks. Fact is that you will be very happy with almost anything that is good quality since your replacing something older, I was happy.

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I'd go with Denon. Great features for the money.

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Anybody have an opinion about the Denon AVR-3311 being worth the extra $$ in comparison to the 2311 relative to sound quality?

I've got a 10 yr old Sony STRDA777ES that was $1500.00ish at the time. It's starting to drop a channel at low volumes & I would like it's replacement to be relatively close in performance.
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4311 is with the extra coin if you can swing it, I don't know much about the 3311

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I have the denon 3312. It has no problem what so ever driving the speakers. Being network ready is also sweet on the reciever I can control it on my phone and I can stream Itunes to it, or use WMP to stream music. If you would like to hear how it sounds you more than welcome to stop by.

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I like that Denon -- found this on the same page:

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

What do you think of that, In comparison (im not attached to Onkyo, just curious)

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The Denon listed is a great device. I think that all things being equal almost any of the devices you buy will sound great. I like Audessey that is offered on the Denon and Onkyo more than I like Pioneer's MCACC.

I have both (Onkyo and Pioneer) and if I did it again, would get the Onkyo even though the Pioneer is a higher end model with more features (network ready, the ability to control it via a iphone, etc)

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I like that Denon -- found this on the same page:

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

What do you think of that, In comparison (im not attached to Onkyo, just curious)
this is a great device. If you don't have the ability to hook it up to the network, I would suggest spending money on a device that will have a better AMP section since the network feature will be wasted.

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How about opinions on this htib:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

For the same money could I do better buying individual components like the Denon receiver, etc.?

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For the same money could I do better buying individual components like the Denon receiver, etc.?
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For the same amount of money, it's hard to beat the HTIB setups under $1k. For a little extra, you can blow them out of the water.

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For the same amount of money, it's hard to beat the HTIB setups under $1k. For a little extra, you can blow them out of the water.
The one thing to consider is weather or not you can actually use a 7.1 setup. I have a 5.1 speaker setup that I bought a few years ago from Athena and paired it with an Onkyo receiver and I use it for my living room and it is great. For what ended up costing around $800 it is great.

There are a few companies that prebundled speaker kits and you can add the receiver of your choice and they are usually great kits.

If you are looking for small speakers, I really think you should look at SVS and Ascend Acoustics. Both make very nice mail order speakers that work well when mounted on the wall.

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Any opinions about how the Onkyo TX-NR808 stacks up to the Denon 3311 from a sound quality perspective?

It weighs about 50% more. That usually (but not always) means a beefier power supply & more current from the amplifier section.

Might be a better deal...
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the original poster should just get this: http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html


if I ever do a setup in my living room again I'm going basic like this. I only run hdmi to the tv, have no need to shake the house down, want the volume graphic overlay. done and done. Though admittedly moving to the 1612 does get you a much better audessey sound setup


edit: actually just get the 1612 more flexibility and signal passthrough when off.

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Any opinions about how the Onkyo TX-NR808 stacks up to the Denon 3311 from a sound quality perspective?

It weighs about 50% more. That usually (but not always) means a beefier power supply & more current from the amplifier section.

Might be a better deal...
The denon has better audessy than the onkyo so ur set up will sound better.

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^^^ this. If you're ready to pull the trigger today, you won't find a better receiver for under $300.

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^^^ this. If you're ready to pull the trigger today, you won't find a better receiver for under $300.
It depends on what you want. If Airplay is important to you sure, however the Denon 1612 is probably just as good for 5 channels and is only $240 from the link that vCook posted.

However, I am biased as I prefer the sound of Audessey over that over MCACC.

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It depends on what you want. If Airplay is important to you sure, however the Denon 1612 is probably just as good for 5 channels and is only $240 from the link that vCook posted.

However, I am biased as I prefer the sound of Audessey over that over MCACC.
Whats the difference??? I never heard those terms before. Reason I ask is I am still shopping for a receiver
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Whats the difference??? I never heard those terms before. Reason I ask is I am still shopping for a receiver
It's the sound setup software built in to them. You get a mic with the unit that you place in and around the different spots of the room and it will tailor the sound to your space. MCACC is the in house product from Pioneer, Audyssey is 3rd party licensed software to do the same thing(and it comes in several versions).


I'm not super familiar with the Pioneer products but one feature the Denon has that is on my "absolute must have list" is GUI overlay on HDMI including volume display as well as HDMI passthrough when off.

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gotcha. Thanks Chris. I have a feeling I won't be getting a receiver until santa rolls through town. So I have a moth to look around still.
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gotcha. Thanks Chris. I have a feeling I won't be getting a receiver until santa rolls through town. So I have a moth to look around still.
the website accessories for less that vCook linked to has a pretty good selection of refurbished equipment from Denon and Onkyo and you will even see the occasional Marantz there as well.

The only other player that nobody has mentioned is Yamaha, and you used to be able to score some pretty good prices on Yamaha equipment (the HTR line) from ebay but I think that has pretty much stopped.

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accessories4less has been doing marantz reselling the longest, then they added onkyo, and denon is the most recent addition. I bought a marantz from them like 5 years ago maybe?

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