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My son is sorry... I just need help': Mother of 12-year-old accused of throwing cart that left woman critically injured weeps outside court
Neighbours describe one suspect as 'the baddest boy in the building'
Boys remanded in custody until November 18 hearing
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A mother of one of the two boys accused of throwing a shopping cart off a fourth-storey mall walkway on to a woman below cried as she tried to apologize on Friday.
Marion Hedges has been in a medically induced coma since Sunday, when two 12-year-olds allegedly hurled the cart as she was leaving an East Harlem shopping mall in New York.
Outside the court, where the boys were arraigned on first-degree assault charges, tearful Rosemary Rosario said: 'Itís a terrible, terrible thing. I really hope she recuperates. I really, really feel for her and her children.'
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In tears: Rosemary Rosario, the mother of one of the 12-year-old assault suspects, weeps outside the courthouse on Friday
She said of her son: 'He's sorry, heís sorry. Heís only 12 years old. Heís a good kid. I just need help. I am a single mom.'
Mrs Hedges, a 47-year-old Manhattan real-estate agent, had just bought Halloween candy for underprivileged kids on a shopping trip with her 13-year-old son when she was struck.
According to police, the two boys laughed about the sick prank, but there were no smiles in Manhattan Family Court on Friday, the New York Post reports.
The boys entered a general denial of charges, the juvenile version of not-guilty, at the hearing.
After five nights away from home, both boys looked a little apprehensive in court.

Critical: Marion Hedges, 47, is fighting for her life after being hit by a shopping cart thrown from a fourth floor walkway


Tragic: Mrs Hedges, right, was rushed to Harlem Hospital where she is critical condition. Her husband Michael Hedges, left, said her recovery is 'with fate's hands'
Lawyers for the boys desperately tried to get them sprung from Administration for Childrenís Services custody and home to their mothers.
Attorney Shahabuddeen Ally, representing Mrs Rosario's son, said: 'This is a tragedy. This act may have been sophomoric, but it was not intentional.'
The other boy's lawyer, Sandeep Kandhari, said his client was a good student, with a 96 average, and has never been arrested before.

Investigation: Police seal off the crime scene and Target shopping cart which struck Mrs Hedges
'This is his first arrest,' Mr Kandhari said. 'He understands that this is a very serious matter.'
Prosecutor Leah Schmelzer asked the judge to keep the boys confined.
She said they have a strong case with 'at least 10 witnesses' and a videotape of the incident.
Judge Susan Larabee remained unmoved by the defence lawyers' pleas.
She said: 'Nothing has changed since I remanded them the first time. Iím continuing the remand.'
They will remained in custody until their next hearing on November 18, when they are expected to go to trial.

Dangerous prank: The two 12-year-old boys are accused of hurling the shopping cart of the fourth-floor walkway
A probation officer told the court one of the boys had been suspended for rough-housing at school.
He said the other boy also has a history of suspensions and was absent 19 times and late for school 51 times last year.
That boy has been 'verbally disrespectful' and 'completely rude' to teachers, the officer added.
According to the Daily News, neighbours of Mrs Rosario's son in the Washington Houses described him as the 'baddest boy in the building.'
If convicted, they could be receive up to 18 months behind bars.

Horrific: It all went wrong on Sunday evening at the shopping centre in East Harlem
The other boy's mother Idelia Pallazo did not speak before or after the proceedings.
There were no members of Mrs Hedges family present.
They were at Harlem Hospital with the critically injured philanthropist.
Mrs Hedges has worked with charities for over 25 years and is currently involved in at least six different projects. 'She is such a super, super nice person,' the friend said.
Earlier in the week her father-in-law Michael, told the Post: 'They have her sedated right now, she's unconscious. It's not quite clear what happened but I hear she has some broken bones and some cranial injuries - there's some blood up there,' he added gesturing to his head.

Heart-stopping: Mrs Hedges had been walking with her 13-year-old son on the ground floor when she was hit by the shopping cart, which flew from the fourth-floor walkway
'They're letting us up two at a time and we can only stay for five minutes.
'You can't really see anything up there - it's just her lying in a bed unconscious with 50 thousand tubes in her. She's stable, they're keeping her stable and her respiratory system is functioning.'
When asked about what should happen to those responsible for throwing the shopping cart, Mr Hedges said, 'They should have the book thrown at them.'
Her husband Michael said earlier in the week: 'What I can tell you is sheís not well. Her prognosis at a minimum involves many months of painful rehabilitation.'
'Thereís not a lot we can do right now. Itís with the doctor and with fateís hands.'


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Shoot her too for not beating her child enough to fear any repercussions of his actions.

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That's a horrific situation.

1. Let them serve the sentence.
2. Make them pay for all the medical expenses and monetary compensation once they become 18 for the next 15 years.

This act was no accident. The kids knew the repercussions of throwing a shopping cart down from the 4th floor.

This society is becoming so messed up. Call me old fashioned, but this is another reason why we need to go back to conservative values in this country. Good parenting, moral values and being respectful to others is now a thing of the past.

When more and more kids are being born of wedlock, this is what you can expect. Mom has to work full time and there's no one else to raise the children and they grow up f-ed up like this.

The liberal media is also largely to blame for this. All the shit you learn from 2 1/2 men, lady gaga and jersey shore thrives on demolishing the fabric of our society and the next generation is eating it up like ice cream.

Can't wait to see how messed up this place will be in the next 10 years.
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That's a horrific situation.

1. Let them serve the sentence.
2. Make them pay for all the medical expenses and monetary compensation once they become 18 for the next 15 years.

This act was no accident. The kids knew the repercussions of throwing a shopping cart down from the 4th floor.

This society is becoming so messed up. Call me old fashioned, but this is another reason why we need to go back to conservative values in this country. Good parenting, moral values and being respectful to others is now a thing of the past.

When more and more kids are being born of wedlock, this is what you can expect. Mom has to work full time and there's no one else to raise the children and they grow up f-ed up like this.

The liberal media is also largely to blame for this. All the shit you learn from 2 1/2 men, lady gaga and jersey shore thrives on demolishing the fabric of our society and the next generation is eating it up like ice cream.

Can't wait to see how messed up this place will be in the next 10 years.
I agree, too many mommys out there that as soon as shit gets tough in a marriage - Fuawkin bailout like selfcentered assholes and know they can get their american payday. Its too bad that alot of them dont realize that they are putting themselves into a nearpoverty level and a bad enviroment for their kids to grow up - why do you think there are so many little porn star sluts out there - cause daddy isnt in the picture!

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I agree, too many mommys out there that as soon as shit gets tough in a marriage - Fuawkin bailout like selfcentered assholes and know they can get their american payday. Its too bad that alot of them dont realize that they are putting themselves into a nearpoverty level and a bad enviroment for their kids to grow up - why do you think there are so many little porn star sluts out there - cause daddy isnt in the picture!
Obviously, it depends on a case to case basis, but in general the blame lies on both men and women for 1) not screening their partner thoroughly 2) not sticking together and working out each other's differences.

Although I could be completely wrong about this and someone who is actually married can shed some more light.

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Reminds me of "Sleepers" and the Hot Dog kart Scene where the film subsequently follows Tnat's suggestion

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I dont remember that- what happened?

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That's a horrific situation.

1. Let them serve the sentence.
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This act was no accident. The kids knew the repercussions of throwing a shopping cart down from the 4th floor.

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The liberal media is also largely to blame for this. All the shit you learn from 2 1/2 men, lady gaga and jersey shore thrives on demolishing the fabric of our society and the next generation is eating it up like ice cream.

Can't wait to see how messed up this place will be in the next 10 years.

I blame Ron Paul. Career politician not doing anything for this country and doesn't even take a pension cut. And blowing money on his campaign when there are starving kids in africa
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Obviously, it depends on a case to case basis, but in general the blame lies on both men and women for 1) not screening their partner thoroughly 2) not sticking together and working out each other's differences.

Although I could be completely wrong about this and someone who is actually married can shed some more light.

in theory


live with a person for a year and everything goes great. And they can change on you. Just like people who have been married for 15 years and they get divorced.
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live with a person for a year and everything goes great. And they can change on you. Just like people who have been married for 15 years and they get divorced.
Getting married is easy. Maintaining a relationship is the hard part.

If both partners are willing to work it out and address each others concerns then a relationship can definitely be successful.
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Getting married is easy. Maintaining a relationship is the hard part.

If both partners are willing to work it out and address each others concerns then a relationship can definitely be successful.
It never hurts for the long term married men to get a little side action with some dancing boys from time to time to keep things fresh!

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If both partners are willing to work it out and address each others concerns then a relationship can definitely be successful.

this isn't like a business partnership.


people change. remember when you were a conservative and turned into a liberal. i would divorce you. People also change on who they like. "oh, theres this new guy at work, and he delivers awesome jokes, he so impresses me" her mind is made up, and she isn't gonna "work" the relationship
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or people get into a relationship not realizing their partners are idiots, since people can "act" like nice people. Nice guys finish last while chicks go for the cute rich guys who later turn into fat lazy guys that look at 14 year old girls ass while they are shopping together at walmart
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Dont all guys end up like this? Whats the problem?

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The liberal media is also largely to blame for this. All the shit you learn from 2 1/2 men, lady gaga and jersey shore thrives on demolishing the fabric of our society and the next generation is eating it up like ice cream.
Blame the Media? Really? Are people that stupid that they can't tell reality from the fantasy that is the entertainment industry?

If true, that's not the media's fault. It's the individuals.

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It's the individuals.
There's only so much parents can do when their kids are bombarded with immoral values 24/7 on tv, radio, internet, etc.

You're correct, if there wasn't a demand for such crap, then there wouldn't be a supply for it.

Our moral values are going down the drain, that's for sure.
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Turn the fucking TV/computer off. This country's problem is exactly what you're doing, placing blame elsewhere.
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Blame the Media? Really? Are people that stupid that they can't tell reality from the fantasy that is the entertainment industry?

If true, that's not the media's fault. It's the individuals.
Now i know your gay cause if you were hetero and were in a long term with a bat shit crazy female youd understand that" there are people that are that stupid that dont know reality from fantasy" they are called 98% of the us female population!

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I partially disagree.

what happens when parents dont let their kids watch TV while the rest of their friends do. they become an outcast or they go over to their friends house to get access to all the crap that they put on TV.

its continuous loop of chicken before the egg thing of how the crap is perpetuated.
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I partially disagree.

what happens when parents dont let their kids watch TV while the rest of their friends do. they become an outcast or they go over to their friends house to get access to all the crap that they put on TV.

its continuous loop of chicken before the egg thing of how the crap is perpetuated.
This.

Forget TV, blocking kids from accessing all this crap online is near impossible.

Plus, if everyone in school does it or talks about it and if your kids are oblivious to the stuff, then they'll be loner outcasts.
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Forget TV, blocking kids from accessing all this crap online is near impossible.

Plus, if everyone in school does it or talks about it and if your kids are oblivious to the stuff, then they'll be loner outcasts.
Cause everybody in school talks about only that stuff? You're silly. That's like saying back in our days you HAD to do drugs, be a jock and get laid, otherwise you'd be an outcast.

Do you have any interaction with teenagers? I have 2 nephews, a niece, and 2 cousins ranging in ages between 11 and 17. Except for the niece (who might have some deeper issues ) none of them watch that stupid shit on TV or online, act like retards and have plenty of friends that are like them. And they are all live in DuPage County, not some BFE so it's not like they aren't exposed to any of it.
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Do you have any interaction with teenagers?
I have 8 nieces and nephews who attend chicago and suburban public schools from elementary to high school. I'm not even going to attempt to count my cousins.

I deal with 6-17 y/o kids often because my family owns a store which operates in the vicinity of 4 major CPS schools in the city.

I also give speeches as an alumni at my HS and interact with new classes often.

Trust me, the social atmosphere in schools has significantly changed since you and I graduated.

If kids are void of TV, Internet or cell phones, they are definitely in a bubble.
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