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Front tire removal without tire stand???

Hey guys I need to take off the front tire of my bike but I dont have a front tire stand. Does any one know how to do it? 1994 GSXR-750. I am going to put the brand new tire from my 94 onto my 06. Same tire size. Must do it in the Belvidere area. Hammertime charges $66 per tire change. I dont want to pay $66 bucks twice to switch out the trires. So If i can get the tire off of the bikes or atleast one bike then I can reduce that cost as much as possible. Thanks gents.

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oh boy...

suspend bike from ceiling
remove wheel


getting the tire off the rim is another story youll need a tire machine for that

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No garage to do suspend from ceiling. Thought of that already. Would milk crates work?jack stands maybe?

Would any tire machine work? Or do I need a special machine? I have a uncle who has a tire machine for Super Late Model race cars. Will taht work?

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I've done it with jack stands and microfiber clothes to keep from scratching. Used a jack as far forwars on exhaust as possible and (surprisingly) didnt damage the thin muzzys exhaust, thick stock exhaust took the stress perfectly fine.

Can't remember how we did it, but Grasshopper did a tire change for me and had a nifty way of using leverage to break the bead (remove rotors first!), then just spooned the tires off/on, might gwt lucky when seatung the bead just adding air from a compressor depending on tire stiffness; worst case redneck it using a bit of starter fluid and a lighter, lol.

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they "could" work... personally id rather take my chances gently laying my bike on its side than putting the front end on jack stands or milk crates

as for any time machine working... i think a car machine could puttl the tire assuming you know exactly what youre doing, are good at it and are ok with possibly gouging/scratching the rim

why does it have to be done in belvidere


ive never seated a bead with anything other than compressed air, i do know the starter fluid trick works but i wouldnt want to do it unless it was my ONLY chouce

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If you can get to a tire machine i'd suggest that route, just clamp from the outside (gripping around rim lip) to keep the teeth from marring up your rim.

I used a basic tire machine at work no problems, just take care around rotors! (Cant stress that enough lol, theyre not cheap!)

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Eesh i wouldnt lay it on the side, unless your tank's empty. Im pretty sure most tanks have a pressure release valve of sorts at the cap, gas is bad for the paint!

Not to mention most bikes have a crank breather to the airbox, youd risk dumping oil into your intake.. nicht gut.

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build a ramp. roll motorcycle up ramp. Put 2x4 across the motorcycle underneath the frame or engine. (make sure it doesn't damage anything.) Put 2X4 blocks to build up height.

Kick ramp out from front wheel, but make sure bike is balanced first. Or add weight to back of bike(or have someone sit on the back)


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put blocks close to the motorcycle since 2X4 isn't strong when its flat and not upright.



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Don't do it pay some one.

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As much as i hate to say it, not too bad of a cheap mcguyver idear by TDS. Hahah

The only problem i've had with jackstands is lack of clearance with the fender on due to the legs being in the way of the rim/tire. But jackstands are meant to be stable, i wouldnt worry about that once you get it up. Its the lifting while keeping the bike balanced that's the main concern.

(Which is why even a non pitbull cheaper stand is still a good investment)

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they "could" work... personally id rather take my chances gently laying my bike on its side than putting the front end on jack stands or milk crates

as for any time machine working... i think a car machine could puttl the tire assuming you know exactly what youre doing, are good at it and are ok with possibly gouging/scratching the rim

why does it have to be done in belvidere


ive never seated a bead with anything other than compressed air, i do know the starter fluid trick works but i wouldnt want to do it unless it was my ONLY chouce
The 94 doesnt run right now and i dont have a truck and it is in belvidere.

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a wise voice among a few..........
True, I suppose assuming 0 mechanical ability on OPs part is prudent, however there's still the issue of it not running.

Although if everyone took that advice, who would ever start learning? /2cents

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Hey guys I need to take off the front tire of my bike but I dont have a front tire stand. Does any one know how to do it?
Yes. Get a stand. Easy.

You actually need a few other tools, and a service manual, to do this right by yourself. And if you plan to ride this bike later, you'd better be trying to do it right. Having a tire, or a wheel, come off at speed is really distracting.

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Looking into a tire stand now. any ideas on what brand or does it matter? Are they all universal? Ive never used a stand before. In fact Ive always paid to have it done. Just kind of penny pinching right now. Do I need 2 people to use it? one to balance and one to lift the bike? Thanks for the help guys.

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Looking into a tire stand now. any ideas on what brand or does it matter? Are they all universal? Ive never used a stand before. In fact Ive always paid to have it done. Just kind of penny pinching right now. Do I need 2 people to use it? one to balance and one to lift the bike? Thanks for the help guys.
Try buying a Pitbull or equivalent , less problems down the road . Its a one man operation . For balancing , you need a balancer.

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Hold on buddy you can not lift just the front.

you must have rear stand or hold it up right some how

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Don't do it pay some one.
+1000000000000000000000000...If you don't have the proper tools (and know how) to tackle this kind of job you'll save yourself much more in the long run if you just pay a pro to do it right. Chances are nothing will go wrong if you have a pro do it and even if it does he'll be the one making good on it...Your bike slips and falls no telling how many things will need to be replaced or how much damage will need repair. Do it right from the get go and avoid the worries, hassles and expense of screwing it up!

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Hold on buddy you can not lift just the front.

you must have rear stand or hold it up right some how
Appreciate that very much. I am new to the whole work on your bike yourself idea. Thanks alot for telling me that. I would for sure effed that one up.

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A 2x4 through the rear wheel and under the swing arm held by two stands.

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Gus i overlooked your post only cause all the bikes have pitbulls holding them up

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Hold on buddy you can not lift just the front.

you must have rear stand or hold it up right some how
Yup, not lifting the rear first will get you in trouble.

Why are you putting a 2x4 through the rear wheel? Only time I've done that is to loosen the front sprocket.

Edit: Nevermind, didn't read it correctly. Theres many ways to do this, but ifyou've never done it before, its not something you really want to be practicing with. Might have to bite the bullet and take it to a shop. Theres also quite a few people on here that do tires, find someone nearby that could maybe show you the first couple times.

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Either way, you should get stands, it makes the most mundane tasks easier. I'd highly, highly recommend 1 piece construction rear(spooled), and a front head lift stand. With those 2 tools you can pretty much take the bike apart.

Also, I think I read somewhere that SmartBiker does mounting and balancing, but I'm not 100% sure he's talking about tires
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so, you can drive out to belvidere, buy stands, drive somewhere else to a tire machine that wont work unless you have the MC wheel adaptors for the jaws, to take a tire off a 94 gixxer, so you can put it on your 06? it seems to me that the smart way to do this would be to order a new pilot power from motorcycle superstore for under 100$ and it will show up with the ups guy and you wont burn $50 in gas and 15 in tolls and 6 hours of your life fuckin around with a 18 year old bike, and if you have an 06 gixxer you are a baller and should be able to afford the extra 17 dollars to do it right
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