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New Cannon Rebel Digital Camera

What do you guys think of the new Cannon EOS Rebel. I really want to get a new camera. I'm not sure I want to drop that kind of cash yet but the reviews I've read seem amazing for an amateur like me. Seems like you get all the quality of a pro camera in a simple package that even I can understand how to use


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Dude, I have been drooling over that camera. Thats the one I want.




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I'd wait for Jack's opinion.....Im sure if you bought one of his new calendar's he would respond faster.
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Dude, I have been drooling over that camera. Thats the one I want.

I've been thinking about the Sony DSC-f717

http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp?id=sndscf717

but for a few hundred bucks more it seems like you get a lot more for your money with the canon.

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I'd wait for Jack's opinion.....Im sure if you bought one of his new calendar's he would respond faster.
I'd like to see both his and Dave's opinion.

Buying a new calendar from him is not a bad idea though.

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if i buy another camera, it will be the ones that burns to a disk, and not a memory stick, much more capacity.



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if i buy another camera, it will be the ones that burns to a disk, and not a memory stick, much more capacity.
The EOS has flash memory capable of 2gb from what I hear. That's all the capacity I need.

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if i buy another camera, it will be the ones that burns to a disk, and not a memory stick, much more capacity.
I got one i can sell you. Sony Mavica, 4 megapixel, stores to 3 inch CD-R. I should have gotten something smaller and so should all of you! I paid about $900 for this thing and never use it!

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I got one i can sell you. Sony Mavica, 4 megapixel, stores to 3 inch CD-R. I should have gotten something smaller and so should all of you! I paid about $900 for this thing and never use it!
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I've got a small 1.3 megapixel cyber-shot. The thing is perfect for pics over email and the net. In time I'll be looking for a bit more. Something that can take really high quality pics for email and print. My wife is picture Crazy so it would be a welcome addition to my house. Even after we got the digital she accumulates boxes and boxes of fricn' 35mm prints. It drives me nuts how many of these things are laying around my house. I'd much rather see them on a CD and print them out only when necessary.

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The thing only thing about buying a new camera now is the technology is really going nuts. I forsee the high-end cameras dropping in price a lot just like every other electronic device has in the past.
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I'd wait for Jack's opinion.....Im sure if you bought one of his new calendar's he would respond faster.
LOL!

I think it's a great camera and you wont be disappointed. It's a "real" camera, but digital. You'll have the capability of choosing different lenses depending on what you're shooting. But then, you should consider the cost of different lenses.

The key is you probably wont outgrow it. It's a good camera, most of the ones around this price range are. The EOS 300D right now is breaking some new ground with a lower price tag. You wont get as sturdy of a camera, a few of the components aren't as good, and you wont have all the features. But still, it is likely more than enough for what you want to use it for. Nikon has announced the D70 which will be its competitor near the same price.

Any specific questions?

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The thing only thing about buying a new camera now is the technology is really going nuts. I forsee the high-end cameras dropping in price a lot just like every other electronic device has in the past.

That's kind of the point with the EOS. It's like the first high end camera under $1000.

If I buy this thing it won't be for a while anyway. At the very least sometime after x-mas. You can't wait forever on these things. Technology keeps moving and there will always be something more you want. Sometimes ya just gotta pick your spots and be happy with it.

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Any specific questions?

I've been reading alot about it and the only question I had was if an amateur like me would outgrow it. You answered that already, but while I got you, Do you think someone like me would ever even need to buy a different lens???? The one that comes with it seems pretty sufficient to me. I'm kind of a dummy. I just want a great camera that will do all the work for me. The sony is alot cheaper though. Do you think the EOS is possibly too much for me???

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The thing only thing about buying a new camera now is the technology is really going nuts. I forsee the high-end cameras dropping in price a lot just like every other electronic device has in the past.
Yes, and the technology has done this and will continue. 5 years ago this technology didn't exist and cameras offering similar results were over $20K. Now is not a bad time to buy. The Rebel itself will get cheaper over the next two years, but probably not much, $200-$300?

The camera body is one component. One of the many parts needed to get a good picture. Don't be fooled by a megapixel number alone. But a lot comes down to how you want to use the camera.
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Something to consider with the Digital Rebel, you have to do all of your composing through the viewfinder, the lcd screen is for after shot preview only. I just got a Canon G5 it's great, I was going to wait for the Rebel, but decided it wasn't worth the expense. With the G5 you can twist the lcd screen to face the front for self portraits and it comes with a remote. The G5 is 5 megapixels while the Rebel is 6.3.

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I've been reading alot about it and the only question I had was if an amateur like me would outgrow it. You answered that already, but while I got you, Do you think someone like me would ever even need to buy a different lens???? The one that comes with it seems pretty sufficient to me. I'm kind of a dummy. I just want a great camera that will do all the work for me. The sony is alot cheaper though. Do you think the EOS is possibly too much for me???
I doubt you will outgrow this body. So if shooting continues to interest you and you find you want to shoot different things, you'll find that you'll want/need different lenses.

There is no substitute for good glass. PERIOD. For example, the cheapest lens I would consider buying for what I do is $1500.

Is it too much for you? You need to answer that for yourself. It's not "too much," you'll be able to figure it out, but it is probably more than you might need.

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I like the Rebel too Brian. That is the camera I want to get next. I have the same camera in 35 mm so I can reuse the lenses that I already have. I am by no means a professional like Jack or Dave so I will never outgrow the camera.
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Now buy a damn calendar before you put me out of business!!!

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Now buy a damn calendar before you put me out of business!!!

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LOL....I have my own ways to make money Jack......no need to step on your toes I gotta find that link and order a calendar though.

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ok....I bought a calendar. You better be at the next track day I go to now and get some good pics of me. Make me look like I know how to lean or something

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the size just seems awfully large. i bought the sony cybershot 5.0 megapixel. its the DSC P10.
i can print out an 8 X 10 and it comes out crystal clear....and i can fit it into my pocket.
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Jack...it's about time you got a 5mp camera
I'll tell you again, it's not just about the number of pixels. Manufacturers will use a smaller chip and interpolate the pixels inside the camera. It's idiotic to do that inside the camera since you'll then get less photos per card, slower processing, less buffer space, etc. Yet, people want to see pixel numbers...

I just bought a Nikon D100. My wife is going to be using that one primarily. Still, I'd take my D1h over that in a second.

I also got a call that my D2h came in yesterday. On my birthday I had the pleasure of going down to the camera store, playing with it, and then telling the guy I couldn't afford it right now and to give it to the next guy in line. That sucked... So all I need to do is sell a couple thousand calendars and I'll be golden.
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Ryan bought ANOTHER camera....all I heard was that it was >$5000.
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Jack,

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I'm looking to get the D100 soon. It's a bit on the plasticy side, but it's a lot like my N80 body. I don't really have the cash for the D1 series. The D2h is hella sweet BTW. What's really great about your D1h that you'd pick it over the D100? Please keep in mind, i don't need 6fps for my typical photo subjects.

PS. had a great time at laguna seca a few weeks back. I was shooting film and a cheapo 70-300G nikkor. Got the pics scanned at 6mp and they look pretty sweet. I should post a couple....
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Ryan bought ANOTHER camera....all I heard was that it was >$5000.
I've been meaning to e-mail him.
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I'm looking to get the D100 soon. It's a bit on the plasticy side, but it's a lot like my N80 body. I don't really have the cash for the D1 series. The D2h is hella sweet BTW. What's really great about your D1h that you'd pick it over the D100? Please keep in mind, i don't need 6fps for my typical photo subjects.

Hey Martin!

Build quality is a big concern. The D100 is plasticy, it feels cheap and I would worry about it holding up. But to some extent it's size is a bonus. I don't always feel comfortable lugging the D1h around but with the D100 being smaller and less expensive I feel better about putting it in a small bag and going out.

Besides the D1h feeling like a tank, it has better components. Yes the buffer size is a plus, doing what I do I bump into it, but the autofocus motor for one is much better on the D1h.

I sell you my D1h! Only used on weekends.....
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With the D1h being a bit over 2mp and the d100 being 6mp, i'll take the resolution over the speed. A friend of mine has a d100 and uses it a lot. He shoots for a local paper. He likes it, but has equal feelings about build quality. That's also why i don't like the digital Rebel. I think that's by far the cheapest build quality and don't care for it. At least the Nikon has a metal lens mount

I still have to get some $$$ for the D100. It will be a few months, but it will save me money in the long run over shoothing film.
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I was wondering what the range of shutter speeds a camera has to have to capture live action such as a motorcycle whizzing past, or a diving football player, or fish jumping out of the water on the end of a line?
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I just bought the Canon Digital Rebel saturday. I love it. I used a film EOS rebel for the last 4 years, so moving up to this was no big deal for me. my old zoom lens and speedlight flash work great with the digital rebel.

It works exactly like my old EOS exept the wonderfull use of the digital lcd screen. no more waiting to see if the shot came out and wasting a 12 or 24 roll of film.

still waiting for my high speed CF card to arrive, cause with my slow ass 4x CF card reading and writing time is slow!!!!!!

I bought mine at best buy for $900 with lens kit (had a 10% off coupon that made it way cheaper than i was looking at online anywhere) retail is $999.

Jack..maybe you could give me some quick pointers on what type of settings you use to capture the racing with.

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