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any door experts here?

as you all know I moved about a month ago. First thing I did of course was to replace the locks (I got the qwikset with smartkey technology, $50 for door knob and deadbolts * 5 = $250!!!!).

Anyway, after finish installing I noticed something weird. On some of the door, the key hole are 'upside down'. You know what I'm talking about? And my garage door it seem like I have to turn the key in the opposite direction to lock or unlock the door (turn toward latch to open, away to lock). That's just counterintuitive. What gives!
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You bought the wrong locks if some are upside down. Those are meant for the southern people like down along the coast line. Its design is meant to resist hurricane damage. The ones that are upside down actually reflect water and dont allow it to just sit and rust everything. Take em back and get the correct locks.

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i have been opening and closing doors for about 40 years now, and ive never come across your problem


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LOL silly question did you put them in upside down

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LOL silly question did you put them in upside down
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Locksets come in left and right just like doors do.
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Lol hurricane locks!!!!

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or this

Locksets come in left and right just like doors do.
Most if not all from the big box stores, like his quicksets, are flipable

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the locks are installed correctly, the doors are upside down.
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Most if not all from the big box stores, like his quicksets, are flipable
Thanks for an actual useful reply. I have to investigate this. I could have swore I follow direction to the T and there was no option to flip. I'll update.

btw the SmartKey feature is awesome!!!! You can rekey all the doors yourself, so you only use one key for everything! Hey and if you (or your babysitter) lose the key, you can rekey to another set. Pricey, but worth it. Also, supposed to be level 1 secure, whatever that means.
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after much research it seems that this is a common problem with kwikset doorknobs. Because they have this half moon shape thing instead of the square one, it is not easily flip. You will need a special tool...

I'm going to head to homedepot and demand that they flip the cylinder for me...or else. Or else I'm returning it.

Option 2 is to call kwikset and request their cylinder removal tool, which they're suppose to send for free. Also I found this video. Instead of using the allen key and screw driver, you'll use the special tool instead.

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OMG the crazinest thing!!!!!!
So I bought 5 of these Kwikset smartkey doorknob/deadbolt combo and 2 of the door had upside down key hole. So what did I decided to do? Swap the handle of these two and guess what? Right side up!!! You might think it's not a big deal but the keyhole being upside down put pressure on the springs (gravity) and can cause premature failure.

WTF Kwikset? Please label your fricking box as either right hand/ left hand whatever.

One problem I still have and I don't know if this is solvable...the garage door. On every other door I have, when I turn my key to the right (which go toward the latch) it locks the door. Make sense. However, my garage door (swings in and hinge on right) does the same thing. But I want to be able to turn it left to lock (since the latch is on the left side). Is this fixable? Who here in CLSB is a locksmith and can CONTRIBUTE?

Man, you think door is easy. It's not! There's left handed, right handed, swing in, swing out. The combination is mind blogging (actually only 4).
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Thanks for an actual useful reply. I have to investigate this. I could have swore I follow direction to the T and there was no option to flip. I'll update.

btw the SmartKey feature is awesome!!!! You can rekey all the doors yourself, so you only use one key for everything! Hey and if you (or your babysitter) lose the key, you can rekey to another set. Pricey, but worth it. Also, supposed to be level 1 secure, whatever that means.
BTW the smartkey feature isnt awesome. it can be changed by anyone with the tools. tenant downstairs thought he was be sneaky and buy the kit use the tools and then return it. Then he locked himself out and need to get in well my key didnt work. so they were changed

BTW your slantty eyed asian I actually replied with a useful post and you pass it up

go time traveler style and go back in time, fuck his grandma, then shoot forward in time and then fuck his mom. Then return back to present state and call him a the product of two incest whores and hes your son and show video of you plowing the both members of his family. .
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no exactly true, I had a condo before this but I actually never changed a door lock. Or do maintenance actually, it was a new construction.

Owning a home is quite fun actually. There's so much to do for this house! Today I just install the window blinds. It's pretty fun...you have to shorten it by removing the slats. Easy!

Oh and I just bought the most wonderful rug. It is SOOOOO soft. It is simply the best rug I ever had. I thought my old rug, the "wooly bully" was good, but man this thing rocks! I will cover the basement to help with the heat in winter. Balta 8' x 10' Comfort Shag Ivory Area Rug:

http://www.lowes.com/Search=balta+8x...d=10051&rpp=48

Next big project: attic ventilation. That may be a little involved....

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BTW the smartkey feature isnt awesome. it can be changed by anyone with the tools. tenant downstairs thought he was be sneaky and buy the kit use the tools and then return it. Then he locked himself out and need to get in well my key didnt work. so they were changed

BTW your slantty eyed asian I actually replied with a useful post and you pass it up
sorry your reply was not useful. You obviously have no experience with kwikset locks...

yes the smartkey can by changed by anyone with the tool AND the key. It's awesome for me and most homeowner since you can open ALL your lock with one key. ONE KEY. How awesome is that? And if you need to change all the locks, it takes 10 second for each lock.

In your case (with apartment complex) it *should* be ideal. As an example, let's say you have to change the lock to the front door often (big apartment complex, people move out a lot). Are you going to keep buying new locks? No! Just change the key! Same thing with individual units, why change the lock when you can just change the key. And you don't have to pay $$$ to locksmith.

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Where is the video of you riding to the store (almost crashing) and then you installing the locks. It's gotta be around somewhere.
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Where is the video of you riding to the store (almost crashing) and then you installing the locks. It's gotta be around somewhere.
actually I haven't rode my bike in about 2 weeks. on a 3 week vacation and spending a lot of time on the house.
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no exactly true, I had a condo before this but I actually never changed a door lock. Or do maintenance actually, it was a new construction.

Owning a home is quite fun actually. There's so much to do for this house! Today I just install the window blinds. It's pretty fun...you have to shorten it by removing the slats. Easy!

Oh and I just bought the most wonderful rug. It is SOOOOO soft. It is simply the best rug I ever had. I thought my old rug, the "wooly bully" was good, but man this thing rocks! I will cover the basement to help with the heat in winter. Balta 8' x 10' Comfort Shag Ivory Area Rug:

http://www.lowes.com/Search=balta+8x...d=10051&rpp=48

Next big project: attic ventilation. That may be a little involved....

Can't you see I'm excited?



sorry your reply was not useful. You obviously have no experience with kwikset locks...

yes the smartkey can by changed by anyone with the tool AND the key. It's awesome for me and most homeowner since you can open ALL your lock with one key. ONE KEY. How awesome is that? And if you need to change all the locks, it takes 10 second for each lock.

In your case (with apartment complex) it *should* be ideal. As an example, let's say you have to change the lock to the front door often (big apartment complex, people move out a lot). Are you going to keep buying new locks? No! Just change the key! Same thing with individual units, why change the lock when you can just change the key. And you don't have to pay $$$ to locksmith.

First you fail TCM

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LOL silly question did you put them in upside down
and for you second comment I owe a house not a apartment complex then rest I will not even comment on except with

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