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The definition of assault weapon.

Was just thinking about this while on a coffee caffeine high.


So.

In front of me I have a spoon. Its just your regular spoon utilized in making myself, or others fat.

Now If I attack someone, AKA Assaulting them it then becomes a weapon and no longer a spoon.

The spoon is no longer a weapon but an assault weapon. So never is it possible to have a weapon that is not an assault weapon.



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Libtards think any rifle is an assault weapon . I wish someone could point out what an AW looks like . I have never seen one . I have seen bolt action rifles , semi auto rifles and machine guns , but yet to see a AW.

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Libtards think any rifle is an assault weapon . I wish someone could point out what an AW looks like . I have never seen one . I have seen bolt action rifles , semi auto rifles and machine guns , but yet to see a AW.
Wanna see an AW? Drive to Aurora and say to one of the younger natives that their music sounds like shit. Then you'll see an abundance.

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There is a "proper" definition of an "assault rifle," which accounts for historical & military application/usage. Then there's another definition of "assault rifle," which is what the media & politicians have morphed into what the general public now believes is an "assault rifle."

Your attempt at a defnition, really does not fit either of the above. In fact, your attempt at applying "assault" as an adjective, muddies the proper definition even further. In other words, you're oversimplying & making things even more confused.
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Ah, but I never made reference to a rifle.

Just a tool. Dubbed weapon by use and then properly defined as an Assault weapon.

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LR blue 10/22 is "assaulting" to the eyes.

Just kidding, I like it.
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There is a "proper" definition of an "assault rifle," which accounts for historical & military application/usage. Then there's another definition of "assault rifle," which is what the media & politicians have morphed into what the general public now believes is an "assault rifle."

Your attempt at a defnition, really does not fit either of the above. In fact, your attempt at applying "assault" as an adjective, muddies the proper definition even further. In other words, you're oversimplying & making things even more confused.
Other than the natural pompousness of your post, I totally agree.

If my post comes off as pompous in regards to yours, then sorry

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Other than the natural pompousness of your post, I totally agree.

If my post comes off as pompous in regards to yours, then sorry
Swap "natural" with "intentional." And I even privately "gave" Rick a too.

He, of all people, should know better. Or maybe I should know better than to hold Rick to reasonable standards.
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Swap "natural" with "intentional." And I even privately "gave" Rick a too.

He, of all people, should know better. Or maybe I should know better than to hold Rick to reasonable standards.
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Libtards think any rifle is an assault weapon . I wish someone could point out what an AW looks like . I have never seen one . I have seen bolt action rifles , semi auto rifles and machine guns , but yet to see a AW.


select-fire or fully-automatic magazine-fed rifled barrel firearm shooting rifle or intermediate caliber ammunition
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select-fire or fully-automatic magazine-fed rifled barrel firearm shooting rifle or intermediate caliber ammunition
Where did you find that ?

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Where did you find that ?
I wrote it and I know it's true, also both wikipedia and world of guns website give a very close definition

a very first asault rifle is considered to be a Stg-44

other assault rifles - M16/M4, AK-47/74. battle rifles - are same as assault rifles but shooting rifle caliber ammo - SVT, FN FAL, M-14.

as soon as you take the select-fire capability away from this firearms, they stop being assault or battle rifles, and become semi-auto civilian firearms, like AR-15, M1A1, semi FAL, semi AK-47/74

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I wrote it and I know it's true, also both wikipedia and world of guns website give a very close definition

a very first asault rifle is considered to be a Stg-44

other assault rifles - M16/M4, AK-47/74. battle rifles - are same as assault rifles but shooting rifle caliber ammo - SVT, FN FAL, M-14.

as soon as you take the select-fire capability away from this firearms, they stop being assault or battle rifles, and become semi-auto civilian firearms, like AR-15, M1A1, semi FAL, semi AK-47/74
Exactly , an AR 15 is just a semi auto rifle.

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I wrote it and I know it's true, also both wikipedia and world of guns website give a very close definition

a very first asault rifle is considered to be a Stg-44

other assault rifles - M16/M4, AK-47/74. battle rifles - are same as assault rifles but shooting rifle caliber ammo - SVT, FN FAL, M-14.

as soon as you take the select-fire capability away from this firearms, they stop being assault or battle rifles, and become semi-auto civilian firearms, like AR-15, M1A1, semi FAL, semi AK-47/74
bro, I tried to come up with a dispute to your definition, but then I'd write it out and see that you had a word that I was saying. I like that definition, it is to the point and at least in my humble opinion, pretty accurate.

The only thing I think you are missing is something like my mossy persuader. sawed off pistol grip shotgun with breacher/scatter barrel

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Exactly , an AR 15 is just a semi auto rifle.
yes, I never argued with that
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bro, I tried to come up with a dispute to your definition, but then I'd write it out and see that you had a word that I was saying. I like that definition, it is to the point and at least in my humble opinion, pretty accurate.

The only thing I think you are missing is something like my mossy persuader. sawed off pistol grip shotgun with breacher/scatter barrel
assault RIFLE, so it can not be a shotgun shotgun has smooth bore, at least in the original concept
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assault RIFLE, so it can not be a shotgun shotgun has smooth bore, at least in the original concept
haha, touche. I was focusing on an assault weapon I guess. You ever shot a slug through a rifled barrel? I've hit shit so far away I would have never thought it possible

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Who cares? Whatever we think an "assault weapon" is, the likes of Dianne Feinstein will make up her own definition and push them upon the often ill informed public. To her an assault weapon/rifle is black, polymer, has 30 round magazine, flash suppressor, bayonet lug, accessory rails, collapsible stock, a sighting system that looks like its out of Star Wars, a "tactical sling" and what she sees soldiers and SWAT teams carry....you know, the rifles you guys love to "build" and label zombie killers, then post pictures on websites and forums with comments as "bad ass", "pretty", "tack driver"...etc, etc. The unfortunate truth is we do the labeling for them and the general public. We are ambassadors for the shooting world and frankly we do a shitty job. We don't act professional or look it. We should dress the part of a "professional" shooter, even if we are not. Instead we show up at matches wearing camouflage "tactical" gear with our blood type on it, don't laugh I have seen it. We are in the public's eye constantly and under the media's scrutiny and we forget that. There are reason I have never posted a picture of any gun I own in this formum. I own the public's idea of the "assault weapon" I feel no need to fuel the frenzy. I would love to post pictures of the many shotguns I own, but they are classic, beautiful O/U's with intricate engraving, gold inlay and claro walnut stocks, no one's interested in those, but man you guys would cream your shorts over Saiga 12 Strikeforce, because it's badass. Yep I am jaded, have been for a long time about where the shooting in general is going.

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Who cares? Whatever we think an "assault weapon" is, the likes of Dianne Feinstein will make up her own definition and push them upon the often ill informed public. To her an assault weapon/rifle is black, polymer, has 30 round magazine, flash suppressor, bayonet lug, accessory rails, collapsible stock, a sighting system that looks like its out of Star Wars, a "tactical sling" and what she sees soldiers and SWAT teams carry....you know, the rifles you guys love to "build" and label zombie killers, then post pictures on websites and forums with comments as "bad ass", "pretty", "tack driver"...etc, etc. The unfortunate truth is we do the labeling for them and the general public. We are ambassadors for the shooting world and frankly we do a shitty job. We don't act professional or look it. We should dress the part of a "professional" shooter, even if we are not. Instead we show up at matches wearing camouflage "tactical" gear with our blood type on it, don't laugh I have seen it. We are in the public's eye constantly and under the media's scrutiny and we forget that. There are reason I have never posted a picture of any gun I own in this formum. I own the public's idea of the "assault weapon" I feel no need to fuel the frenzy. I would love to post pictures of the many shotguns I own, but they are classic, beautiful O/U's with intricate engraving, gold inlay and claro walnut stocks, no one's interested in those, but man you guys would cream your shorts over Saiga 12 Strikeforce, because it's badass. Yep I am jaded, have been for a long time about where the shooting in general is going.
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I am one of the regular guys that think assault rifle means any rifle that have been used or use by any assault team. Designed to be effective in any ways to accomplish mission in regardless of which the assault team find themselves Either cross-training, extraction team, Urban assault and etc. The Army's M16A2 is I think an assault weapon eventhough they teach Soldiers to use only semi-auto and only use the 3-round-burst for supressive fire.

Assault weapon is broad for me. My example is I eat Army MREs and we use tobasco sauce and its heating granules for making a tobasco bomb. Don't ask me. It worked.
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Guess my mossberg 500 is an assualt weapon since its black, has a pistol grip, tac sling and shell holder on it. Hahaha


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I am one of the regular guys that think assault rifle means any rifle that have been used or use by any assault team. Designed to be effective in any ways to accomplish mission in regardless of which the assault team find themselves Either cross-training, extraction team, Urban assault and etc. The Army's M16A2 is I think an assault weapon eventhough they teach Soldiers to use only semi-auto and only use the 3-round-burst for supressive fire.

Assault weapon is broad for me. My example is I eat Army MREs and we use tobasco sauce and its heating granules for making a tobasco bomb. Don't ask me. It worked.
Was never involved in a firefight. Do people fire on full auto in today's military while trying to neutralize the enemy with an M4? We also only used it in training for suppressive fire when trying to break contact.
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