Calling all Computer Geeks - Chicagoland Sportbikes
Chicagoland Sportbikes
 
Open Forum This forum is for all off-topic discussion.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
Talking Calling all Computer Geeks

Here are the specs of what I am thinking of buying(My latest *budget* gaming system)... keep in mind that I do not have unlimited funds... Guess the price at the end

Case: MEDIUM TOWER CASE--See Through Window-Neon Light (Bling, bling)
Motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-DX (DELUXE) nVidia nForce-2 ULTRA 400 FSB 8X AGP
CPU: AMD Athlon XP-2500+ Processor [Barton 512K L2 Cache] XG1206
CPU FAN: AMD CERTIFIED CPU FAN HEATSINK & 3 EXTRA CASE FANS
VID CARD: ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 256MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
CD:SONY CDRW 48X12X8 EIDE
1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE
HD: Seagate 120GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
MEM: 147,1024 MB (512MBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR
Modem: PCI 56K V.90 FAX MODEM w/ VOICE
NIC: 3COM 905B TX NM 10/100 NIC
OS: WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL EDITION
3D WAVETABLE ON-BOARD SOUND CARD, STANDARD 2 USB PORTS, Keyboard and Mouse.


All of it shipped for $991... what do you guys thing... good deal? also have any of you experienced any kind of problems with any of the components, any opinions and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+
logtar is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:05 AM
Head Stepper
 
Pirate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warrenville
Posts: 4,244
Location: Warrenville
Sportbike: TREKK
Years Riding: 9
How you found us: member referal
           
Send a message via AIM to Pirate Send a message via Yahoo to Pirate
Is this a barebone?? If so, are the modem, NIC, and sound on board?? Dont do it if they are... I haven't looked up the specs on that board, so I don't know. Otherwise it looks pretty sweet. Might be alittle pricey though. No?

<-------- Jeff


Hey baby! You ever been on the back of an expensive sportbike??


Property of Evil Monkey Racing
Pirate is offline  
post #3 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:13 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
Pirate, The only thinng on just on board is the sound...The Nic and the Modem are both listed above.

Here is a the board
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/sock.../overview.htm#

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+
logtar is offline  
post #4 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:19 AM
Head Stepper
 
Pirate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warrenville
Posts: 4,244
Location: Warrenville
Sportbike: TREKK
Years Riding: 9
How you found us: member referal
           
Send a message via AIM to Pirate Send a message via Yahoo to Pirate
What the hell you need a modem for?? You're not (gulp) dialing up are you????

<-------- Jeff


Hey baby! You ever been on the back of an expensive sportbike??


Property of Evil Monkey Racing
Pirate is offline  
post #5 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:35 AM
Moderator
 
Chills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 23,640
Location: Naperville, IL
Sportbike: Kawi ZX-10R
Years Riding: Since February 2012
How you found us: NESBA bbs
           
Send a message via Yahoo to Chills
Logtar, correct me if I'm wrong, but it also looks like your video card isn't a card... its onboard your motherboard. And any gamer knows the video card is the most important piece of hardward in your system. I have a so-so processor, but a kick ass card and my games look awesome.

In fact, I'd be willing to sell you the card to put in your rig. Its a nvidia GeForce 4 Ti4400 and I'll give you the 3d glasses with it. Playing FPS with the glasses rocks. I'll even do the install for you. PM me if your interested.

Never a bad time to climb... unless the weather is really horrible, and then you climb inside!

I bleed GREEN
Chills is offline  
post #6 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
No I am not using dial, and it also good to have a modem available *wink*, up but I will get the modem for free with the package.

And Chills.
VID CARD: ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 256MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+

Last edited by logtar; 12-18-2003 at 11:45 AM.
logtar is offline  
post #7 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:45 AM
Moderator
 
Chills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 23,640
Location: Naperville, IL
Sportbike: Kawi ZX-10R
Years Riding: Since February 2012
How you found us: NESBA bbs
           
Send a message via Yahoo to Chills
Quote:
Originally posted by logtar
No I am not in dial, up but I will get the modem for free with the package.

And Chills.
VID CARD: ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 256MB DDR AGP 8X W/ TV-OUT & DVI
D'OH!!!

I should read more carefully.

Never a bad time to climb... unless the weather is really horrible, and then you climb inside!

I bleed GREEN
Chills is offline  
post #8 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
Quote:
Originally posted by Chills
D'OH!!!

I should read more carefully.
Don't worry is a bike thing... you think you are sooo fast that you forget to read.

Ok back to the actual topic... Do you guys see any big 's with the major components? any good or bad experiences?

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+
logtar is offline  
post #9 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:09 PM
Super Moderator

 
Vcook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Winfield
Posts: 43,229
Location: Winfield
Sportbike: bikeless
Years Riding: 10
How you found us: Shit, you know I'm a clsb OG!
           
Send a message via AIM to Vcook
$991? Fuck that, for that price you could easily build a kickass system on your own.

Chris
Vcook is offline  
post #10 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:12 PM
YO MAMA
 
Odysseys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: balls deep in someones mom
Posts: 60,261
Location: balls deep in someones mom
Sportbike: 2010 Electra Glide Police Edition 103cu
Years Riding: a long time!
           
sounds like an old atari to me..lol

then again i dont know shit, so ignore me...lol



Odysseys is offline  
post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:21 PM
Head Stepper
 
Pirate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warrenville
Posts: 4,244
Location: Warrenville
Sportbike: TREKK
Years Riding: 9
How you found us: member referal
           
Send a message via AIM to Pirate Send a message via Yahoo to Pirate
I agree with Chris... It does seem a little too expensive. But I guess you gotta pay for all that bling bling with the case... NOT! Who cares. Carl Malone say you don't need no damn neon lights ober der in dat case.
But hey, if money is no option, rock on. I haven't had any bad experiances with any of these parts, but I haven't tried that particular vid card. But you can check out www.tomshardware.com and I'm sure they'll have a review on there.

<-------- Jeff


Hey baby! You ever been on the back of an expensive sportbike??


Property of Evil Monkey Racing
Pirate is offline  
post #12 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:37 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
The case is really not a big deal, that is just something that comes with the puter... I could really care less. I tought that overall it was a good deal, it is not like I bought it already... that is why I posted it here for some opinions.

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+
logtar is offline  
post #13 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:48 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 726
           
I don't think it is such a bad deal. You could definitely build it a bit cheaper on your own. I buy my parts at www.newegg.com and they have good prices and decent shipping (sometimes free). I could probably make that PC for around $850 by just adding prices in my head. Definitely up the FSB to 200mhz on the ASUS to give you a 3200+ processor.
mthal is offline  
post #14 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:48 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,882
           
No...bad price, bad system. Video card is good. That's actually what I run. The motherboard is 400 front side bus? That's ancient and you should get at least a 533 FSB if not an 800 FSB. That right there makes a world of a difference. I would consider a motherboard such as...

http://www.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm

Whoever tells you not to get anything with onboard doesn't know squat. If you don't like it, don't use it. On board stuff is too common now-a-days to consider a bad motherboard with something that's in there. It's a piece of cake to disable those things and plug in your own. Not to mention...a nic card is standard on most motherboards anyway.

As for the CPU...well I'm not too sure about AMD at this time. These past couple months have had a lot of change. AMD with the new 64 bit chip and Intel awaiting the arrival of the Prescott chips. At this point I would stay away from AMD (for a few months) and wait till Feb or March when the Prescott chip's out. Then there'll be some more stability, but till then there's been a rush to get these CPU's out the door. Some flaws, etc etc.
BIGGY is offline  
post #15 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:52 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,882
           
For decent prices also check...www.directron.com They always seem to be a little better in a lot of areas. Pick out all the parts you want, and hell I can even put it together for you...takes no more than 15 mins to get all the pieces in a system and have it powered up.
BIGGY is offline  
post #16 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:53 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 726
           
Only Intel run fsbs of 533 or 800. We are talking about AMD here.
mthal is offline  
post #17 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 12:56 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,882
           
Yea I didn't catch that till later. I'd stay clear of AMD...I've had too many problems in the past year. I think it's a good chip, but might have been a little rushed to beat Intel to the punch. So for now I would either but Intel or just delay the purchase.
BIGGY is offline  
post #18 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 01:10 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 726
           
I build computers all the time with AMD processors. The thing you have to be careful about is motherboards and not processors. The best motherboard for AMD processors right now is the Abit NF7-S rev2. The Asus A7N8X-DX is a very close second.

If you decide to go Intel, be prepared to pay at least $200 or more premium for your processor. That 2500+ easily runs at 3200+ and it is the best bang for your buck processor right now.
mthal is offline  
post #19 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 01:19 PM
Moderator
 
Chills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 23,640
Location: Naperville, IL
Sportbike: Kawi ZX-10R
Years Riding: Since February 2012
How you found us: NESBA bbs
           
Send a message via Yahoo to Chills
I also have built a few gaming systems in my time, and I've been running AMD's for a few years now. I've not had one problem with any of the CPU's.

Never a bad time to climb... unless the weather is really horrible, and then you climb inside!

I bleed GREEN
Chills is offline  
post #20 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 01:26 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,882
           
What's the 64bit processor that's out now? I don't think it'd be worth buying, because by the time an OS comes out to utilize it, the price and chips would be totally different.
BIGGY is offline  
post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 01:40 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 532
 
Ive got that motherboard and it has 2 built in LAN's. I don't know if it's good for gaming, I don't use it for that. I'd say the price is way to high if it doesn't come with a monitor. I just build one for my dad and it was 900 with a faster processor, 3.0 intel, and an 17 inch lcd monitor.

There was a bunch of people selling the Intel board, processor, and win xp $350 on ebay. Theres only 2 people selling it now but 2 weeks ago there was about 15. Here is one of the combos
Boxuin is offline  
post #22 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 01:54 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 726
           
Looks like a CD-R of WinXP.

I just built a PC for a coworker with a XP2500+, ABit NF7-S ,512mb RAM, DVD/CD-RW combo, 80gig WD 8mb cache, Powercolor 64mb vid card with DVI and TV out,modem, case, fans, all software, and 17" Sony LCD for less than $1,100.
mthal is offline  
post #23 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
I can build my own PC with no problem, maybe not as fast as some of you guys but I am not totally hardware iliterate. The board is a good board and it is probably a little better for gaming than the ABit, but getting that motherboard is not out of the question.

Vcook actually is pretty knowledgable and he gave me some advice. I think I might just do what he adviced and instead of getting this system, just start building one on my own and put the bells and wistles on later.

My main motivation to go with this "package" is that is all done, with OS and you get all the little xtra stuff. My current computer plus spares parts will build me a brand new machine with no problem. This would have been a machine for mostly gaming and running Video editing... If anyone else has any more advice feel free to weight in.

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+
logtar is offline  
post #24 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 02:15 PM
Head Stepper
 
Pirate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warrenville
Posts: 4,244
Location: Warrenville
Sportbike: TREKK
Years Riding: 9
How you found us: member referal
           
Send a message via AIM to Pirate Send a message via Yahoo to Pirate
Plus you can overclock an AMD to the hilt a lot easier than you can an Intel... My .02

<-------- Jeff


Hey baby! You ever been on the back of an expensive sportbike??


Property of Evil Monkey Racing
Pirate is offline  
post #25 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 03:15 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 532
 
Quote:
Originally posted by mthal
Looks like a CD-R of WinXP.
I bought one of these bundles, not for this guy though, and it was an oem full version, no packaging but the real hologram disk.
Boxuin is offline  
post #26 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 03:17 PM
freaking newbies, man there slow, ha ha ha
 
CRAZe Inc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 6,842
Location: San Francisco
Sportbike: Big Wheel
Years Riding: Since 3
How you found us: This is required?
           
I think that's way too much money for that system.
CRAZe Inc is offline  
post #27 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
logtar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glenview
Posts: 5,054
Location: Glenview
Sportbike: CURRENTLY LOOKING
Years Riding: since I was 8
How you found us: The NET is MINE
           
Ok took people's advice and got everything at new egg... total under 600 bucks Thanks Chris and Bogs

VGA PWRCLR|RADEON9600PRO 128M 8X A 1 $159.00
MB nForce2|5P1A4D NF7-S V2 ABIT ATX 1 $101.99
DDRAM 512MB|64X64 PC-3200B CRUCIAL% 1 $94.00
CPU AMD|2500/333 ATHLON XP BARTON R 1 $90.00
HD 120GB|SEAGATE ST3120026A 8mb % 1 $99.00
CASE ASPIRE|ATXB5KLW-AL/350 SL RTL 1 $43.00

Logtar - John

My Blog - @Logtar - Google+
logtar is offline  
post #28 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 08:25 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2
 
But, won't XP Pro add $200 to that under $600? That complete system price sounded good to me, concerning you save a lot of leg work
bling bling is offline  
post #29 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 09:27 PM
Slayed by the Dragon
 
BroBill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Westchester
Posts: 626
Location: Westchester
Sportbike: 2004 Aprilia Futura, Honda CBR1100XXX (BLACKBIRD), Honda 750 Shadow Spirit, SOLD! Suzuki Katana 600
Years Riding: 8
How you found us: you know me already.
 
Send a message via Yahoo to BroBill
Quote:
Originally posted by logtar
I am not totally iliterate.
I always thought there was something wrong with you.

  • A week at Deals Gap - $200.
  • Roasting a set of tires at the Gap - $350.
  • Low siding your CBR1100XX - $9,500.
  • Get a 2004 Aprilia Futura - Dream Come True!
  • Giving your life to Christ - PRICELESS.
  • Salvation - ETERNAL.

Visit Christian Sport Bikes
BROBILL #63, ILLINOIS - Frm. Chapter President.
BroBill is offline  
post #30 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 10:00 PM
CLSB SuperHero
 
TerminatorR1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Crest Hill...didnt think you've heard of it
Posts: 1,808
Location: Crest Hill...didnt think you've heard of it
Sportbike: None right now
Years Riding: since '95
How you found us: friend
  
www.pricegrabber.com is where I got all my components for my new rig, which will be up and running on Monday.

Motherboard: Asus A7N8X Deluxe
CPU: XP2800
Ram: 1 Gig PC 3200 Hyper X
HDD: 120 Gig Seagate SATA
CPU Fan: ThermalTake Volcano 12 Xaser Edition
Power Supply: ThermalTake 480 Watt Pure silent power
Vid Card: FX5700 Ultra
Sony DVD Rom
Asus CD Burner
Blure Aspire Case with 3 fans and side window.

No need for a sound card, the Nvidia soundstorm on board is sweet(from what I've heard.)

Life is too short to ride anything but an R1

In memory of FastBlueR1...RIP

TerminatorR1 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Chicagoland Sportbikes forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome