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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-16-2004, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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Back like 4, 5 months ago United Airlines was almost bankrupt....

The stock was .62 when I became interested. It is now over 1.50 ( i think) well at least last week it was. Anyways the more i look at it I see me losing money.

If i would of done what i wanted to... I would be up 75k in 5 months (aprox).

United was worth 85 bucks before 9/11

I have some money burning a hole in my pocket and I want in on united, but everyone says it's too risky?

any advice?
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united will make a come back but there whole Corporate accounting has me shaky for a couple reason, there are use to declaring bankruptcy, and since they have before makes me really leery of there proclaimed gain, just as it was before, all is good, next day..AHHH hey can someone borrow us some money?

Don't know if the risk is worth the risk in my point of view.



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but on another note if i see 5% lose, i yank it like a red headed step child. in any stocks i actively trade.



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What you are doing is speculation, not investing.

I don't know anything about speculation, but if you wanted to invest in UAL I would take a wait and see attitude.

A couple of years ago I use to fly United alot. And when I say alot, I mean a sh*tload. All business travel, all coach. I've flown United 4 times in the last 4 months and I notice a difference, and not for the better. They have the feel of a discount airline, but without the price break. When I fly on my own dollar I amost never fly United because it is just too expensive. Only time will tell if they can compete and consistently make money without cutting too many costly (and potentially dangerous) corners.

On the other hand, the United terminals are always full - people are flying more than ever. They will survive, but IMHO it is going to be a long haul.

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The only reason that company still exists is because of the government. Look at there financials closely and you will see it is impossible for them to make money. Besides you have a couple of small airlines coming in that have figured out what it takes to be profitable and are succeeding at it. It is speculation btw unless you are a professional. Long story short......I wouldn't touch that stock with a ten foot poll. Sure it may have a huge return, but the regulatory and political risk are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than most investors should be taking.

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Sorry to bastardize this thread, but I have been watching a few stocks, and if you want in on a good one take a look at Sirius Radio. (SIRI) The released a press release a week or so ago saying that Mercades bought a huge chunk of them... Look for them to go up up up! Trading now for like 3 bucks. Just my .02 But I've always been into the more volitile tech stocks.

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But I've always been into the more volitile tech stocks.
You mean blowup stocks.


Man if this is the crap people are starting to invest in again we haven't learned anything from the last few years

If your gonna speculate at least do a little more homework than that.

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If your gonna speculate at least do a little more homework than that.
Oh, I could give you press releases, charts, statements... whatever you want. I have done the homework. I just didn't see the need to post it all here.

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Oh, I could give you press releases, charts, statements... whatever you want. I have done the homework. I just didn't see the need to post it all here.
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sometimes I'm not sure. I hate to see people do this blind.

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I do alot of personal investments not only stocks and bonds but also municipal and federal. I would not go any more than $5k and even then I would sit with my agent and review last 2 years to get monthly/quarterly/yearly analysis. You might be able to access alot of that info off of many websites such as vangaurd.com or edwardjones.com.

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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-17-2004, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks to evryone!!!!

Pirate...

A friend of mine bought in xm radio when it was under a dollar...

Now he is very happy.

Speculating.... sirius radio sounds like a good thing to research...
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Sirius announced that they are going to be adding a crapload of new stations all due to customer requests.

XM announced they are going to a commercial-free strategy to compete with Sirius.

Xm has the name and vendor support (Sony, Pioneer), but I think Sirius has better programming.

only time will tell i guess
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